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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 10:02:56 GMT
It's an early election, isn't it? To increase the Tory majority and extend the Brexit Junta's right to govern long beyond the 2-yr negotiations.
FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 10:07:15 GMT
Given their ability to manage the referendum process and predict the final outcome then managing a General Election should be simple for them.
FIs.
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Post by Hofmeister on Apr 18, 2017 10:46:49 GMT
It's an early election, isn't it? To increase the Tory majority and extend the Brexit Junta's right to govern long beyond the 2-yr negotiations.
FFS. Needs a larger majority so she is not held to ransom by the swivel eyed loons of her party. Big worry would have been that cobyn would have been replaced before the next election. Given that they are in an electorial mess right now now is the time to screw them. Kick in the balls for UKIP as well, and knocks sturgeon's indiref askew for a while
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 10:50:22 GMT
She is a swivel eyed loon herself though.
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Post by WDB on Apr 18, 2017 11:32:16 GMT
Has turned into one, yes.
Must admit, hadn't thought of Sven's explanation about easing her dependence on the toxic tendency in her own party, which makes some sense. But I think it's much more to do with kicking Labour while it's down and locking in a Tory majority for the duration of the exit process.
Labour has one last chance to see sense, install Starmer in place of Corbyn and campaign for the UK's future relationship with Europe, rather than becoming an authoritarian Singapore-on-Thames.
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 12:12:38 GMT
Interesting, WDB. So you think the parties should campaign on the following lines:
Tory: Swivel-eyed Blukip hard brexit Labour: Soft brexit LibDem: No brexit UKIP: No women in the golf club bar, freedom to have sex with dogs in your front garden SNP, Green, Plaid: No brexit Northern Ireland: Whatever the hell they like, makes no difference.
I've just put my money where my mouth is and joined the LibDems, I'll help with campaigning and leafleting etc.
Prediction: slightly increased Tory majority, but not by as much as May would like. Swing from Lab and Tory to LibDem in a few dozen seats. SNP/minor parties maintain position.
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Post by Hofmeister on Apr 18, 2017 12:18:18 GMT
At the end of the day I live in a very very safe Tory stronghold, nothing I say or do will alter the local result.
So I'll do nothing
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 12:21:19 GMT
Glories of FPTP. What a disgrace.
My seat swings, and was a three way marginal in 2010. Feel like I need to do something, so will be actively campaigning here. Futile gesture probably, but I need to sleep at nights.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 12:25:03 GMT
Al,
I'd like your opinion [genuinely];
Which way should I vote and why? [Mine is a proxy vote in South Oxon].
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 12:39:51 GMT
I can only really recommend a LibDem vote for the main reason of registering anti-Brexit sentiment, but I fear such a place as South Oxon is a lost cause. Maybe not though, given that the Libs gave the Tories a scare in the Witney by-election. I can't see the point of a Labour vote from the point of view of Brexit (they are pro now), or from the point of view of trying to displace a Tory in a rural Oxfordshire seat. Assuming you don't want to vote Tory of course. I can hardly ever see reason for that, personally. Came close myself in 2010 but couldn't do it. But it may depend upon which constituency your vote is actually in, there isn't one called South Oxon: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parliamentary_constituencies_in_OxfordshireI'm assuming Wantage or Henley? Looking at the map of Henley, I didn't realise it stretched so far north.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 12:49:26 GMT
Henley, as you say.
"Henley" used to stretch even further north than it does now.
There's no chance of me voting Labour, its not even a matter of political position, its simply that they just screw up everything they touch.
The Conservatives have just lost the plot. Who knows what they even think these days.
LibDem is tempting, but what a Holy-Roman-Empire-sized mess they made of the last time they were in the spotlight. Also its really only the more visible 3 or 4 characters which are tolerable, the majority of the rest of the party, and a fair amount of its supporters, are just clueless idiots.
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Post by Hofmeister on Apr 18, 2017 12:58:34 GMT
There is no sensible, middle of the road, viable party to vote for
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 13:00:56 GMT
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Post by Alanović on Apr 18, 2017 13:02:06 GMT
There is no sensible, middle of the road, viable party to vote for Two out of three ain't bad, and perhaps if their support builds the LibDems will become viable. I'm doing my bit for the only sensible, middle of the road party we've got.
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Post by WDB on Apr 18, 2017 14:08:40 GMT
Lib Dem for me too, in the same donkey-in-a-blue-rosette constituency as Otto. I've flirted with membership recently, only to come down in favour of single-issue anti-Brexit campaigning. Now the two come together and the Lib Dems are our only (faint) hope. I'll be signing up tonight.
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