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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 18:53:04 GMT
I know this has been done before in the other place I made a discovery tonight in the Auris hybrid. It's possible to hold the car on the foot brake and not have the rear end all lit up.
There's what feels like about an inch at the top of the pedal travel which will hold the car.
Is this something specific to this car (wear in the switch) or something that is fitted but unknown/unused in other automatics?
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Post by Humph on Nov 16, 2016 19:41:13 GMT
Not sure that it's meant to do that. Might be wrong.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 16, 2016 19:48:27 GMT
I know this has been done before in the other place I made a discovery tonight in the Auris hybrid. It's possible to hold the car on the foot brake and not have the rear end all lit up. There's what feels like about an inch at the top of the pedal travel which will hold the car. Is this something specific to this car (wear in the switch) or something that is fitted but unknown/unused in other automatics? Everything in the Yaris has at least an inch of travel in it before anything happens. |
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Post by Humph on Nov 16, 2016 19:52:48 GMT
Thought it was a Horace not a Gladys?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 20:58:21 GMT
Everything in the Yaris has at least an inch of travel in it before anything happens. Mmmm, this is my first experience of Japanese car ownership and I've not experienced anything to justify the fan boy following. I now understand where recycled margarine tubs end up though, shiny bits of plastic tucked away under dashboards. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 21:22:02 GMT
But the bits that need to be really good, are really good. Hence good quality and reliable cars for less than German money.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:00:49 GMT
But the bits that need to be really good, are really good. Hence good quality and reliable cars for less than German money. Our car failed to move under its own power twice in the first three months from new thinking it was a plug-in hybrid. It would only go after being plugged into the mains. The first time on the driveway after I'd had the radio on for 20 minutes when it went into power save mode too late to leave enough power to start. The second was 800 miles from home, car packed ready for the journey home and...nothing. I'd packed the trickle charger should this happen, 20 minutes on charge and we were on our way. I wasn't too confident sitting at the front of the queue on the ferry next morning if it would drive off or need a push. Of course all manufacturers can have the odd Friday afternoon car. It kind of knocks the confidence a bit after reading how wonderful Japanese cars are and being the definition of reliability. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 10:33:41 GMT
True.
My experience of Japanese cars from 1979 all the way through to March this year when someone in the family had a Japanese car was of almost 100% reliablity. Certainly we were never let down or broken down. I can recall a failing water pump and master brake cylinder (on two separate Civic Shuttles from the 1980s), a failing radiator in an Accord, rusty Mk2 Civic and Mk3 Accord, failed aircon condensers in a CRX and Mitsubishi Spacewagon and a clogged washer bottle in a Subaru Outback. The last three could happen to any car. In that time we owned six Hondas, three Subarus, a Nissan, Toyota and a Mitsubishi.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 17, 2016 12:40:03 GMT
True. My experience of Japanese cars from 1979 all the way through to March this year when someone in the family had a Japanese car was of almost 100% reliablity. Certainly we were never let down or broken down. I can recall a failing water pump and master brake cylinder (on two separate Civic Shuttles from the 1980s), a failing radiator in an Accord, rusty Mk2 Civic and Mk3 Accord, failed aircon condensers in a CRX and Mitsubishi Spacewagon and a clogged washer bottle in a Subaru Outback. The last three could happen to any car. In that time we owned six Hondas, three Subarus, a Nissan, Toyota and a Mitsubishi. The Lancer, 100% japanese, was completely 100% reliable for near on 9 years and 150k miles. When it left me, it was getting saggy and clonky suspension wise, but otherwise still oil tight, water tight, still on original aircon gas, and all the rotating bits still rotated with no bearing wear, Everything was working as it should. It was however, very old tech, based in fact on early 1980s technology with minimal updating required to meet current emissions standards. The Japanese suffer the same issues with leading edge technology in cars as everyone else. |
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Post by Rob on Nov 17, 2016 19:14:38 GMT
And therefore a risk you'll start moving. Why not put the handbrake on?
I put the EPB on but I have a DSG.
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Post by Humph on Nov 17, 2016 19:25:46 GMT
DSGs are NBG, IMHO
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 19:44:43 GMT
And therefore a risk you'll start moving. Why not put the handbrake on? I put the EPB on but I have a DSG. I don't want a park brake vs electric motor fight. The car won't start moving because I'm sat there testing it. I was querying whether manufacturers were now making autos which could be held on the brakes without the brake lights when queuing. If I'm going to be sitting for any length of time I press the P button then the transmission locks up and the car is going nowhere. |
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Post by WDB on Nov 17, 2016 19:50:19 GMT
Have you tried R'ing TFM? It's unlikely to be an intentionally undocumented feature.
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Post by crankcase on Nov 18, 2016 13:47:27 GMT
I appreciate I'm the last person in the world to commenting on anything technical, but I was under the impression that putting the transmission in P in a traffic jam, however that is achieved, is a bad idea in the event of a shunt, as expensive bits in the gearbox might break that wouldn't otherwise?
If not, I'll just go mind my P's and queues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 13:50:23 GMT
My E has a hold function in lieu of a proper handbrake lever. So, at the traffic lights, I usually activate it, just needs a sharp stab of the pedal. However the brake lights remain illuminated and this displeases me. It is inelegant and impolite. So, I knock it in to Neutral, the brake hold is maintained and the lights go out.
Win.
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