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Mar 31, 2024 0:42:18 GMT
Post by bpg on Mar 31, 2024 0:42:18 GMT
I guess it’s important to have other interests to fill the days. Fortunately we’ve always been quite busy doing other things when we weren’t working and share enjoyment of similar or the same things. So often I see couples who have nothing much in common other than being cohabitants of the same address and parents of the same children without having anything else they jointly hold an interest in. That might be a trickier scenario when the kids have left and both parties are retired. There must be a middle ground too. My wife and I enjoy common interests but also enjoy doing our own thing. We go on holiday, she is happy to relax with a book and a drink by the pool or whatever, Son is the same. Daughter and I get bored after two maybe three days at a push. We then have to go off and explore in the car, on foot or hire some bikes. Whether the children are with us or not I don't think that will change. Gives us all something to talk about in the evening. The good thing to come out of COVID was spending time at home. My wife was used to having the house all to herself, with the dog, all day, five days/week. You see couples where one person has run the house while the other has been out all week. The one who is out all week retires and doesn't know what to do. They are suddenly trespassing on the other persons space. It's great to spend time together however we are still individuals who have individual interests. I'll be that person who disappears for a few days and returns to get a bollocking, not because I've done anything I shouldn't have but because I was having such a good time I forgot to report in. Thankfully, my car and phone will clock-in for me and tell my wife where I am but you know, you should pick up the phone and speak and often forget.
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Mar 31, 2024 7:59:28 GMT
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Post by Humph on Mar 31, 2024 7:59:28 GMT
I suppose circumstances can drive behaviour. When I first met the current Mrs H we both worked in the same industry. At that time it was a very buoyant sector, but it was pretty full on. Long days and weeks, lots of travel, many weekend and evening events etc. Free time was rare and precious so we didn’t waste it. That habit has continued I guess.
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Aug 18, 2024 6:01:35 GMT
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2024 6:01:35 GMT
Well now, I was offered a job last week. Right in my wheelhouse. A premium Italian brand is looking to expand its presence in the UK and northern Europe. I know the people very well. Decent, well capitalised and respectable. They want someone to head that up and got in touch with me. Two year minimum contract, big bucks and expenses etc. Generous budget to open an office and warehouse in the UK and to hire a team to operate it. Substantial marketing budget too. Flattering of course and ten years ago hands would have been bitten off. Trouble is, I really don’t think I want to be that person anymore. Rather ride my bike in interesting places! Maybe I’m being stupid and should just do it as one last hurrah, but I’m so enjoying my freedom from all of that and we don’t especially need the money now so why would I? I’m 66, in basically good health and want to enjoy the next few years doing more of the stuff that work restricts while I have the energy to do it. Need to make a decision before a phone call tomorrow. Am I mad? 🤔
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Aug 18, 2024 6:47:51 GMT
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Post by bpg on Aug 18, 2024 6:47:51 GMT
Why would you ? You said yourself the industry you worked in had wild swings from good to bad. There will be targets and people demanding results.
If you don't need the money and are happy now you've adjusted to the next chapter of your life why would you go back ? What would you be proving and to who ?
An alternative could be they put someone younger in and you offer consultancy. A fatherly advisory role without the ulcers kind of idea if they want your experience and you don't want the stress.
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Aug 18, 2024 7:24:59 GMT
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2024 7:24:59 GMT
Yeah, I’m fairly sure I’m going to turn it down. Going up a mountain shortly to think about it, but I’m pretty certain I’m out. It would also involve a lot of European travel including regular trips to a head office in Italy. Just feels like I’m past all that malarkey.
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Aug 18, 2024 8:44:59 GMT
Post by bromptonaut on Aug 18, 2024 8:44:59 GMT
That sounds like a demanding gig; return to full time work with all its demands. If you don't need the money why do it?
I've found a place for myself doing three days a week in welfare advice. It was never really pressured but I've moved away from casework with Macmillan. It started to do my head in and I knew I wasn't pulling my weight in the team.
I'm now taking calls on a helpline related to a single benefit. Whack a Mole stuff; you answer the callers questions, write up your notes and confirm advice in writing then move to next caller. If they need more help they call again and speak to the first available adviser.
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Aug 18, 2024 11:01:16 GMT
Post by Rob on Aug 18, 2024 11:01:16 GMT
If you can afford not to work - mad to sign a two year contract and have all that stress. Turn it down.
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Aug 18, 2024 12:52:37 GMT
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 18, 2024 12:52:37 GMT
100%. You may live another 30 years but will you really benefit from these two years.
I like the consultancy suggestion. For someone of your experience you can advise a younger person with reasonable experience and keep steering them in the right direction. Maybe six months full time then winding down so that by two years you are simply available at the end of the phone.
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Aug 18, 2024 15:03:43 GMT
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Post by WDB on Aug 18, 2024 15:03:43 GMT
I think you should take it.
Erm, no I don’t. Just wanted to say something different from the others. But I think they’re right: you got out because you weren’t enjoying it enough. Unless this is a specific challenge you really want to accept, or it offers money you really need, you’re at the stage of your life where time to please yourself is more valuable than more gold on the pile.
Working on my own retirement investments recently, I’m struck by the number of online financial YouTubers who say that their hardest task is to persuade clients that they can afford to retire. People naturally fret about not having enough money but easily forget that without the time and health to enjoy it, money is just a number that benefits nobody.
I’m ten years behind you, but I’m already looking at what post-corporate life might look like. (And corporate life has a nasty way of letting you know you’re post-corporate.) I don’t want to just stop, but I think this will be my last job in the IT business. If it ended tomorrow, I’d survive but I’m not ready to simply retire. I’d try to reinvent myself in a different capacity, partly to supplement my income but mainly to stay active.
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Aug 18, 2024 15:47:09 GMT
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2024 15:47:09 GMT
Ok thanks for all the feedback chaps. Genuinely much appreciated.
Here’s where I am -
I don’t want/need the job, or any other job. I’m thoroughly enjoying being retired. My wife doesn’t want me to take it, she’s retired too and we’re having a great time together. We are not rich, but we have way more than we need. The only thing that has caused any pondering is the part about being flattered to be asked. I’m not even sure about proposing a consultancy role, I’m out of that world now and happy to be. Anyway, Italians don’t really care for that sort of thing, it’s a bit like suggesting you’ll sleep with their daughters now and then to check if they’re doing it right. They tend to want you to marry the company. Yes it could be fun for a while. Yes, it would be stressful. Going to politely tell them no thanks tomorrow.
Probably…
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Aug 18, 2024 17:49:21 GMT
Post by Rob on Aug 18, 2024 17:49:21 GMT
You said your wife had some health issue just before you stopped working - or have I mis-remembered. Time to spend time together doing fun things when young and healthy enough.
I'm sure I could do with more money on the retirement pile but we all know if we live long enough the amount we'd spend goes down.... unless you need a care home.
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Aug 19, 2024 3:32:46 GMT
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Post by dixinormus on Aug 19, 2024 3:32:46 GMT
Sounds like you have thought it through Humph. I think some people stumble in to retirement and feel bored, but obviously this doesn’t apply to you. I wouldn’t be bored: SWMBO would find me jobs to do every day 😂. All jokes aside, some folks retire and then struggle with the fact that they are now spending a lot more time with their “other half”..!
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Aug 19, 2024 8:47:29 GMT
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Post by Humph on Aug 19, 2024 8:47:29 GMT
Yes, fortunately we both like doing the same stuff in the main. In other news, I have thanked the Italians for their kind offer, but have turned it down. Too much to do in the next few years that doesn’t need the distraction of working! 😎
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Aug 19, 2024 9:36:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 9:36:42 GMT
Good. If you'd taken it, I'd have driven up there (with many charging stops) and parked a dented old Nissan Leaf outside your house for 2 months, just to embarrass you in front of the neighbours.
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Aug 19, 2024 9:39:51 GMT
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Post by Humph on Aug 19, 2024 9:39:51 GMT
“Dented” Oh dear, what has happened now? 😬
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