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Post by Avant on Feb 23, 2018 14:40:18 GMT
Apologies - I was thinking of the XC60.
The V60 is a better load-carrier than the overall volume (which is not tht helpful a measure) implies. It doesn't have the height that my previous Octavias had, but there's plenty of length, and the front seat back will fold forward. But it looks as if Family V needs something a bit bigger.
I respect the V60: it's solid, reliable and seems to be built to last; and the D4 engine has plenty of punch. But the lifeless steering and stodgy handling mean that it's not fun to drive. It's at its best cruising on a motorway. The head says keep it long-term, but the heart has already ordered its replacement.
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Post by WDB on Feb 23, 2018 15:07:16 GMT
...which is...?
A BMW featuring the digits 30 would suit Sir nicely, I reckon. Adjust size, configuration and ‘i’ or ‘d’ suffix to taste. 330i Touring, perhaps, or 430i GC. Sensible when you need it to be, lovely, grown-up interior, decent space (I can fit in the back of a 4GC) and plenty to enjoy when it’s just you. Take the 8-speed auto, the sports seats but the not-trying-too-hard wheels and suspension and you’re all set.
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Post by Avant on Feb 23, 2018 23:33:10 GMT
A 3-series Touring was certainly on the shortlist - but it still has the same problem as when I first tried one about 10 years ago - I can't get comfortable in it. I'm 5'7" (so a different problem from you!) with an average-sized body but shorter-than-average legs, and with the seat in the right position for the pedals, the steering wheel is too close. It's the same in my 125i, but I live with it as the rest of the car is so great to drive, and it's a convertible. Also in the 3-series there's no room even for a space-saver spare wheel, so you have to have runflats which make for a boneshaking ride.
The 220i Active Tourer is much better in this respect, and I very nearly went for one. But the seats aren't as supportive as they should be, and it was pipped at the post by the Audi Q2 2.0 TFSI. This has my favoured combination of big engine and medium-sized body, and the height of the car is just right in that you just get in and out, without climbing either up or down. And as with all the other VAG cars we've had, the driving position is just fine.
Should I have waited to try a Volvo XC40? Much lauded in the motoring press: I seem to be the only person who thinks it's ugly as sin (more so - sin can be quite attractive....) and it has everything, including heating and AC controls, operated by touchscreen, which I think is potentially dangerous and surprising coming from Volvo who pride themselves on making the world's safest cars.
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Post by WDB on Feb 24, 2018 7:53:03 GMT
Haven’t tried the XC40 but that touchscreen was part of why I didn’t warm to the V90 as I’d hoped to. Simplicity of appearance is good, up to a point, but after that it becomes tidyminding - shoving things out of sight to the detriment of function. Certain people do this in my kitchen; it drives me nuts.
Buttons are not in themselves a bad thing; they just need to be well placed and easy to differentiate, preferably by touch alone. My old S60 did this superbly; even where controls looked similar, they felt different - clicky movements for the temperature dials, but softer clunks for the audio controls - so I could always tell what I was doing. Blocks of identical buttons (the CLS has some of these), three-deep menus and especially touchscreens take away that vital immediacy. Without it, driving can feel dangerously like just operating a computer.
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Post by dixinormus on Feb 26, 2018 7:18:08 GMT
I am well jel Avant, a Q2 would be top of my short list were I splashing out on a new motor. Alas, building a new house has put paid to that for around, oh, 15 years I reckon 😫.
That said, second on my shortlist is a Civic 1.5 turbo, which is a massive 7 grand or so cheaper than the Q2. So with man maths I might settle for one of those in a few years time instead!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 10:36:06 GMT
We tested drove the Outlander yesterday. She wants it, I don't. Not enough power.
I expect I'll place the order shortly.
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Post by tyrednexited on Feb 26, 2018 13:02:16 GMT
We tested drove the Outlander yesterday. She wants it, I don't. Not enough power. ....... ...you, or the car.....?
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Post by WDB on Feb 26, 2018 13:37:27 GMT
Not enough power. I expect I'll place the order shortly. At least you have the power to do as you’re told.
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Post by commerdriver on Feb 26, 2018 13:50:05 GMT
Not enough power. I expect I'll place the order shortly. At least you have the power to do as you’re told. go on then, how many of the proud males on here have the same amount of power. I probably do , for one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 13:51:33 GMT
We tested drove the Outlander yesterday. She wants it, I don't. Not enough power. ....... ...you, or the car.....? Both. Evidently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 14:21:41 GMT
I am in charge of blame, fault, contrition and apology.
Insofar as cars go; She has absolutely zero interest in the process, zero intention of participating in the process and an absolute refusal to provide requirements guidelines.
Anything I buy that over the ensuing years fails to provide 100% wifely satisfaction is clear proof of my incompetence and unwillingness to listen. My failure will be writ in stone, but her lack of participation is disregarded and me mentioning it is just me trying to make it her fault.
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Post by WDB on Feb 26, 2018 14:21:55 GMT
At least you have the power to do as you’re told. go on then, how many of the proud males on here have the same amount of power. I probably do , for one Well, there was the V70 that MrsB1 vetoed in 2012 - which led us to buy the E220 instead. Good decision, as it turned out. But, on automotive matters anyway, I do have the power to shortlist, and occasionally to just do what I like - as with the 325, which she never really approved of but grew to tolerate. The i3 was my idea, although she's since claimed it as her own. And she professes not to see the need for the CLS over the old E, but coos over it every time she's in it. This year the focus shifts to the house. That will be altogether more delicate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:13:01 GMT
Soft furnishings? Ye Gods.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:16:07 GMT
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Post by WDB on Feb 26, 2018 15:32:32 GMT
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