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Post by Humph on Feb 21, 2018 14:48:56 GMT
"They" just want sitty uppy cars nowadays. There's no telling 'em. It's a bit like leggings, skinny jeans and Ugg boots, they only look good on, or are any use to the very few, but the many still want them.
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Post by lygonos on Feb 21, 2018 16:25:00 GMT
FRV takes up the same road space as a Civic (about 3 inches wider but parks easily), and is lower than an Outlander. You're still in denial about why you don't like SUV/MPVs Get the gaffer what she wants, then it's her problem!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 16:35:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 16:42:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 17:22:33 GMT
I don't really get the problem with the car, I'd have that Outlander in a shot.
I detest diesel, and now own none. Long may it stay that way. So I wouldn't compare it with owning a diesel, because it won't happen. I;d compare it with owning a petrol only.
Whilst I need a car with long/unlimited range, there are many many days when I'd be on electric the whole time.
I think its a good looking car, and it looks well equipped. They sell them near me, though I don't know with what engine. I might go and have a look in a bit.
In the UK I'd certainly get a such a thing. But getting even an ordinary car repaired and/or maintained here is such a depressing process, that adding hybrid complexity might just finally get me off the top of the local multi story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 17:24:31 GMT
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Post by lygonos on Feb 21, 2018 17:29:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 17:31:50 GMT
Mmmm, sadly I might have to turn my nose up at the colour of the seats
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Post by WDB on Feb 21, 2018 19:01:00 GMT
Quite like the brown seats, but you can’t see them when you’re sitting on them, and everything else is just so ... black. Rather misses the point of a non-black interior.
But it’s a lot of car for £12,000. Would take a lot of parking and a lot of petrol too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
£12,000!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a 2008? ? Madness. Nogbad quite rightly wanted more than four cylinders so avoided the T8 in the V90. The V60 PHEV is interesting... Lots of miles which it appears to have worn well. Alan - the Outlander is just another SUV. Its high and baggy. Some people love 'em, and maybe Mrs A will too, but if you are dead set against an SUV you can't kid a kidder. Why not have a look at new Citroen C3 Aircross. Espadrille is coming back round to one of them. Slightly raised, but still a 'car', 130bhp petrol and 40mpg with 0% finance.
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Post by WDB on Feb 21, 2018 22:03:20 GMT
Why not have a look at new Citroen C3 Aircross? Does it come in an inflatable version? Not sure how it would accommodate four people plus holiday paraphernalia otherwise. 🤓
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 8:41:13 GMT
Ah - I forgot the size issue. However the V60 PHEV would also be too small...
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Post by WDB on Feb 22, 2018 11:39:52 GMT
...and too dieselly.
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Post by Avant on Feb 23, 2018 10:34:35 GMT
The V60 PHEV is petrol / electric - but like most PHEVs, much too expensive new. Someone has indeed taken a bath on the one above - must have been a bit of a shower to buy it new.
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Post by WDB on Feb 23, 2018 11:12:15 GMT
The V60 PHEV is petrol / electric... Is it? This one isn't www.volvocars.com/uk/cars/new-models/v60-twin-enginenor is the D6 in Vić's link. Actually, a diesel PHEV makes a lot of sense for Family V's requirements: it will work fume-free on short, suburban journeys, but be more economical than a petrol PHEV on longer trips. Others may differ, of course, but I've found the post-2011 S60/V60 hard cars to like - admittedly on short, dealer-loan acquaintance. But maybe the hybrid version makes the difference - especially if the Vs are a stumpy-legged family. 🤔 Just looked at some numbers. Pre-grant, the D60 listed at £48,275, so £43,775 to pay. So if it's dropped £30,000 in three years, that's £833 a month; that's taking a bath and the taps too. But it was probably a company car, given the 78,000 miles, so its user would have made up much of that in tax. I do wonder if it works at all as a load carrier, though. All recent Volvo estates are impaired by a high boot floor, but this one looks to be higher still to accommodate the batteries and motor - similar to the i3, which is certainly no load carrier. And it weighs over 2,000kg - more than my CLS, which has room for four of me, plus luggage. The powertrain may make sense, but I suspect these cars are rare for a reason.
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