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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 18, 2019 16:36:28 GMT
...as an alternative to brown, it has its attractions.... |
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Post by WDB on Nov 18, 2019 16:37:59 GMT
No I haven't seen it, but it'd probably appeal to my 22 year old niece and her girlfriend, and their generation in general. They are probably more the target of Clio advertising than you or I. Haven't seen that one either, but I have noticed a lot more mixed-race, single-sex and single-parent families and similar in adverts. Young people nowadays don't even have net curtains, let alone twitch them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 6:43:05 GMT
Standards eh?
Haven't had net curtains for 30 years. Moving house soon and may need them. Ugh...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 8:30:03 GMT
It'll be after dark too, I've never been to Reading but it doesn't sound like somewhere you'd willingly go after sunset. Went to Slough a few times so I'm guessing it might be a bit like that? ...........Given where the dealer is, and that they close at 6pm, I suspect the main aspect of the car that is going to be tested is the stop-start system.....  One half of an internet pint of mango and cucumber flavoured craft IPA to TNE for getting this one partially right. There was a crash on the M4 around J11 just before we got there. I succeeded in driving about 1 mile, over about 20 minutes, in a massive traffic jam. One thing though. It's a TC auto, which is the only variant in the range without a stop start system. Which has displeased Mrs A, but not sufficiently to persuade her in to a manual (not ath I want one really). How to S/S systems work on a TC auto I wonder? Anyone got any experience? Are there any? I'm going back at 2pm today to try again. Gotta love Reading. |
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 8:49:48 GMT
My TC equipped Merc has stop start. I've done enough miles in it to know that with my typical usage, it makes no measureable difference to mpg. I leave it on in cities in deference to emissions, but the rest of the time I switch it off, a right pia when parking etc. Over sensitive.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 19, 2019 8:53:03 GMT
How to S/S systems work on a TC auto I wonder? Anyone got any experience? Are there any? ....much as you would expect; Yes; Yes (quite a lot (most?)). The X1 is TC and Start/Stop. ...are you sure it hasn't got one and it wasn't simply disabled? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 9:06:54 GMT
Yes absolutely positive. Looked on the internet and everything. It's specifically mentioned in several reviews of the model that the petrol auto does not have S/S. Confirmed by the sales chap.
So how does it work on a TC? What's the input to restart, given there is no clutch to depress?
I did get to experience the collision warning hysteria a couple of times, as I squeezed down the inside of an HGV to turn left out of the jam, and between some bollards coming through a housing estate exit designed to stop large vehicles entering. That might well get dialled down, apparently you can set the sensitivity in the software menu somewhere.
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 9:10:24 GMT
I suppose, if it was me, I'd do one more search before finally committing. It would be more general and non brand specific, but would or might include search terms that included, petrol, auto, from 2016, estate, under 30,000 miles and so on. Just to see what else might be available at your much increased budget.
The Honda may well be the best of the bunch, and I hope it is, but it's probably worth running a parallel terms comparison before locking yourself into the finance. If only to satisfy yourself that it's the right path.
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 9:14:05 GMT
Yes absolutely positive. Looked on the internet and everything. It's specifically mentioned in several reviews of the model that the petrol auto does not have S/S. Confirmed by the sales chap. So how does it work on a TC? What's the input to restart, given there is no clutch to depress? I did get to experience the collision warning hysteria a couple of times, as I squeezed down the inside of an HGV to turn left out of the jam, and between some bollards coming through a housing estate exit designed to stop large vehicles entering. That might well get dialled down, apparently you can set the sensitivity in the software menu somewhere. On mine, if you are holding it on the footbrake, the engine will stop, as soon as you release the brake, it starts again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 9:21:13 GMT
Yeah, I've already done that. It threw up a lot of Astras, which is what piqued my interest in those.
Astra is out due to domestic badge-related issues (shame, I was almost convinced, I'd like to give the 1.4T with 150bhp and a TC auto a try, I bet it's really rather good), Focus is out because the best one can get is a 125bhp with automated manual transmission (yuk), VAGs are out because of DSG too, no Auris without going hybrid and they're not pokey enough, Hyundais/KIAs also not pokey enough in petrol auto format, C Classes are too old to be PCPable at that budget, French cars are pretty much all diesel and the petrol variants in C-segment cars don't seem big/powerful enough for my taste. Also the Renault Laguna experience. *shivers*. No such thing as a Mazda 3 estate. Nor any Nissan equivalent. Just bloody SUV/crossover things.
This is without going up a size to Mondeos etc, because the whole point of this was to downsize the car whilst maintaining enough interior space and performance as possible.
This Civic does seem to be a bit of a unicorn.
Other suggestions welcome of course - what have I missed? That's what this place is all about.
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 9:21:23 GMT
I suppose, if it was me, I'd do one more search before finally committing. It would be more general and non brand specific, but would or might include search terms that included, petrol, auto, from 2016, estate, under 30,000 miles and so on. Just to see what else might be available at your much increased budget. The Honda may well be the best of the bunch, and I hope it is, but it's probably worth running a parallel terms comparison before locking yourself into the finance. If only to satisfy yourself that it's the right path. Right well, I've just done that, and I found a Civic estate, same model you're looking at, same year, 28,000 miles though, and in white, but £9995. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 9:23:10 GMT
Yes absolutely positive. Looked on the internet and everything. It's specifically mentioned in several reviews of the model that the petrol auto does not have S/S. Confirmed by the sales chap. So how does it work on a TC? What's the input to restart, given there is no clutch to depress? I did get to experience the collision warning hysteria a couple of times, as I squeezed down the inside of an HGV to turn left out of the jam, and between some bollards coming through a housing estate exit designed to stop large vehicles entering. That might well get dialled down, apparently you can set the sensitivity in the software menu somewhere. On mine, if you are holding it on the footbrake, the engine will stop, as soon as you release the brake, it starts again. Oh right. One thing I'll REALLY miss about the Merc is the SBC HOLD function. Stab the foot brake whilst stationary and it holds the car without the need to keep your foot on the pedal. Genius. Touching the accelerator releases it. Do the newer Es without SBC pumps have something similar? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 9:24:12 GMT
I suppose, if it was me, I'd do one more search before finally committing. It would be more general and non brand specific, but would or might include search terms that included, petrol, auto, from 2016, estate, under 30,000 miles and so on. Just to see what else might be available at your much increased budget. The Honda may well be the best of the bunch, and I hope it is, but it's probably worth running a parallel terms comparison before locking yourself into the finance. If only to satisfy yourself that it's the right path. Right well, I've just done that, and I found a Civic estate, same model you're looking at, same year, 28,000 miles though, and in white, but £9995. Yep, I know the one you're talking about. Happier to pay a bit more for one with fewer miles and from a local approved dealer. That isn't white. |
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 9:27:19 GMT
Yes, my Merc has the "hold" function.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 10:00:23 GMT
Does the S/S keep the engine off whilst it's on HOLD?
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