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Post by Humph on Sept 28, 2021 13:08:25 GMT
Then I'd say they would have had that symbol. Anyway, most of it is about the driver, and if your tyres comply with the legal requirements in the places you're driving then the rest is mainly down to taking a bit of care.
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Post by bpg on Sept 28, 2021 13:15:24 GMT
The 3MPSF is all they look for on the tyres, that and the dimensions and weight match the documentation or you have an additional piece of paper showing the tyres you have fitted are certified for the car.
Having had proper winter tyres and a couple of 'hybrids' - Goodyear Vector and Michelin Cross-Climate - not unsurprisingly when the weather gets inclement I prefer winter tyres. They grip where the all-seasons do not. It takes a lot to unstick a proper winter tyre.
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Post by Humph on Sept 28, 2021 13:26:45 GMT
Interesting, a straw poll of two of us now then !
During the summer of 2020, when no one was going very far anyway, I left the winter tyres on my car all summer. Nothing bad happened. Just a bit noisier than summer tyres I suppose.
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Post by bpg on Sept 28, 2021 14:58:55 GMT
I've found the compound of winter tyre can feel a bit brittle in winter following use in really hot weather. I don't bother changing my tyres around now, I just swap cars.
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Post by Humph on Sept 28, 2021 16:05:08 GMT
And here was me thinking that having two sets of tyres was being a bit ostentatious...😉
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Post by dixinormus on Sept 29, 2021 20:19:42 GMT
Pal of mine had to replace a wheel and tyre recently after a hit and run during the night. His car is a 2014 Yaris on long-term rental from a cheap n’cheerful outfit in Auckland who are currently largely uncontactable due to the lockdown there. Minimal insurance. We found a used wheel and a legal Dunlop tyre from a scrappy - 30 quid. He’ll still have to negotiate with them over the damaged front wing but at least he’s mobile again.
Biggest pain was finding the jack missing from the boot... And he can’t prove that it wasn’t there when he picked the car up.
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Post by dixinormus on Jan 17, 2022 6:20:35 GMT
SWMBO’s Outlander passed its MOT today, but both rear tyres are down to 2mm. Oh well they must be more than 4 years old. Maybe a Covid thing, but Toyo tyres are now 200 quid/corner!! Eek. Looks like it’ll be Goodyears then, or Hankook if I want to go really budget. Car’s only done 4000-odd miles over the past year anyway; the tyres won’t have much work to do....
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Post by WDB on Jan 17, 2022 9:13:57 GMT
I imagine global demand for oil and gas is affecting materials costs for tyres too.
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Post by Humph on Jan 17, 2022 9:37:04 GMT
It was really cold early doors last Friday in one of the more elevated bits of Wales. An untreated, steep approach road to a forest was like frozen glass.
Even 4x4s on summer rubber were struggling to find grip.
But, my RWD car on full winters just coped with no fuss. Little flicker from the traction control now and then, but it just climbed up the mile or so of slippery slope without any drama.
Well, I thought that was good and slightly interesting anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 9:58:07 GMT
Stating the obvious to say that SUVs are only an improvement in terms of grip in winter conditions if fitted with winter tryes. Well it's obvious to people like us on this forum, sadly that's not the case amongst the general public.
The 2 posts above are yet more reasons not to buy an SUV. The tyres are more expensive than for an ordinary family car, and they're no safer in the winter than anything else unless properly shod. In fact in the hands of the ignorant they're more dangerous, and that goes for normal driving conditions also. Hateful, hateful things. If you live somehwere accessible only by unmade roads, or you actually need to drive off road, by all means get one. If not, it is, IMHO, an idiotic decison. Yes, I know Humph, fashion, Cheshire "cred"...
My poor old Sis learnt the hard way, buying a BMW X3 off her parents in-law when they stopped driving. Hated it. She sold it, then moved to the US where her husband bought a Tiguan for them as he arrived there first. She hated that too, mainly due to the dreadful rearward visibility being a problem on US Freeways...sitty-uppy is OK if you don't care what's behind or to the side of you it seems to me. It's now sold as they're leaving the US for Korea, and they have agreed to by a Hyundai Tucson from the person whose job my B-i-L is taking over. She can't escape the bloody things. It's a relief for her when she comes here to use her Mini.
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Post by Humph on Jan 17, 2022 10:04:44 GMT
About a lifetime ago I had an old Defender which got used mainly to get me and mine to and from Scottish ski resorts. It would get going from rest in the most trying of conditions as you might expect, but it took more than a wee bit of stopping when that was the more desirable option. 😬
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 17, 2022 17:33:06 GMT
As you will recall Humph, I had a similar situation in my Subaru with 'off road' tyres going down my drive one snowy morning...
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Post by Rob on Jan 17, 2022 18:16:41 GMT
Review of the latest Defender (the work-horse van like 90) was interesting. He has it on loan from LR for a while and was allowed to spec it as he wanted. He didn't realise it would come on road biased tyres and didn't select the off road tyre option. But when you see where he's taken it and how it handles mud etc. then you can see why he's pleased with the tyres.
It looks a decent work-horse to me. Fairly luxurious really. He's got it a bit dirty inside. Goes well too for a D200 although it is a 6 cylinder engine I think and has 200PS and 500Nm of torque. Pulled his car transport trailer with his Jaguar in it (so over 3 tonnes total) well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 20:22:37 GMT
I'm awaiting the arrival of a Land Rover Defender 90 P400e plug-in hybrid to play with. I'm rather looking forward to it, though it will have road oriented tyres, I expect. It comes with a 2.0 4cylinder petrol engine, none of that diesel shite, thank you very much.
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