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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 13:39:07 GMT
What homework? As reported in the Daily Mash what good would impact assessments have done the dinosaurs?
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 22, 2017 20:53:02 GMT
...well, I'm getting my blue passport back, so all that remains now is to sort out my free unicorn, and job's a good 'un......
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Post by Rob on Dec 22, 2017 22:42:53 GMT
Unfortunately my passport expires in April 2020. I'd need to renew 12 months early to keep it with the EU markings Might do that you know.
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Post by WDB on Dec 22, 2017 23:04:42 GMT
Not sure you can; I think the limit on early renewal is nine months. Unless you declare the old one lost or damaged, but that's a whole new ball ache.
Other EU countries - Croatia, for one - don't have red passports, so this move changes nothing in terms of aborting the exit process.
Two incidental points: 1. my one pre-1988 passport was black, not blue. 2. the blue passport is supposedly 'iconic'. In my business, an icon is a small design intended to be pointed at. This idea goes one further, in that the rest of the world will now point and laugh.
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Post by Rob on Dec 23, 2017 2:10:11 GMT
>> 1. my one pre-1988 passport was black, not blue.
I might still have my first passport somewhere - from 1990 I think. It's a non EU one for sure. I recall it was more black than blue in colour.
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Post by bromptonaut on Dec 23, 2017 10:37:13 GMT
>> 1. my one pre-1988 passport was black, not blue. I might still have my first passport somewhere - from 1990 I think. It's a non EU one for sure. I recall it was more black than blue in colour. I have mine from 1976, issued at Liverpool. Quite how I could still be identified form that photograph almost ten years later defies belief.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 11:01:33 GMT
Too much to hope that remainers in Parliament and the rebel Tories will carry the day tomorrow with the Lords amendments being voted on? Will the government be compelled by Parliament to remain in the EU internal market and customs union? Will there be a referendum on the deal they agree with an option to remain?
Big day tomorrow. We can but hope.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 18:04:55 GMT
It'll never happen. More's the pity.
Over the last two years I have more despondent about the Brexit process. In fact the only thing I can think of that really annoys me about being a member of the EU is the inability to send convicted criminals back to their home countries, with no ability to return ever. My wife is a JP and today remanded in custody an east-european man who is accused of multiple counts of under-age sex, fleeing the country (but he returned and was found), breaching the terms of a bail order etc etc. We have enough of these nasty people of our own without wanting more. Second to that is the claiming of benefits in a 'wealthy' country and repatriating it to their own 'poor' country. That is not fair, but I suspect this is exaggerated anyway.
On the other side, when I think of the benefits to the consumer of EU legislation, from mobile phone tariffs including European roaming, the compensation for air travel delays, uniform safety requirements for products, I sometimes think we are better off even more integrated. Certainly if the two extremes are considered equally bad, then I would certainly prefer greater integration.
And then we have the inevitable economic meltdown, exacerbated by online shopping habits, and our huge employment force is going to crash, without the safety net of a large, easily accessible 300+ million population market 22 miles away.
I always said that for me, remaining was a case of holding my nose and voting to stay in, and in many aspects my views haven't changed. What has changed is the total balls up the government and the opposition are making of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 20:41:55 GMT
Will there be a referendum on the deal they agree with an option to remain? A second referendum could be the worst thing to happen. Statements and threats from Barnier and Juncker seem to have alienated at least two of my friends who previously voted to remain.
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Post by WDB on Jun 11, 2018 20:55:04 GMT
Pretty fair sumnary, Esp, although I’d disagree with you about the shape of the curve: it’s far more poisson than normal. The criminals and benefit repatriators are in a very tiny tail - vastly exaggerated by some with a vested interest in fomenting outrage, while the benefits of common standards and frictionless trade are clear to anyone who’s bothered to look at the queues on the German-Swiss or Swedish-Norwegian border.
Besides, after centuries of generally having a major war evety 25 years, a project that has kept Europe at peace for 70 years can only be a good thing. So no nasal restraint required for me to support it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 9:56:21 GMT
Will there be a referendum on the deal they agree with an option to remain? A second referendum could be the worst thing to happen. Statements and threats from Barnier and Juncker seem to have alienated at least two of my friends who previously voted to remain. I believe that the best place to stop brexit is Parliament. We should return to representative parliamentary to make theses massive constitutional decisions. You know, have the UK Parliament take back control. However, the media spin and outrage which that would precipitate would now be deafening so I think the only path is more of that wonderful democracy the brexiters used to be so keen on. Let the government agree a withdrawal plan with the EU, then let us have the say on whether we accept of reject it. Then, if we choose to reject it, a final vote between leaving the EU with nothing, all deals are off, we start from scratch, year zero, or remain in the EU on current terms. What I fear there though is that too many people will fail to understand what "No Deal" means, thinking it means the status quo, and not actually the enormous step back from the status quo which it would be.
Have just seen that Philip Lee has resigned his Ministerial post as he can't in god faith vote with the government today. Maybe it's starting.
You friends, kevin, should know better than to take a face value the pronouncement of either side, and instead examine the facts and the interests of our country. Juncker can be as bad as Johnson, Fox, Davis et al, yes, granted. But that doesn't mean it's no longer in our interests to remain in the EU.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:19:29 GMT
Al, turns out you've got it all wrong and have misunderstood that nice Mr. Farage....
“After Brexit whether for good or ill, we will be self-governing. That’s the point. I never said it would be a beneficial thing to leave and everyone would be better off, just that we would be self-governing."
- Nigel Farage, Friday 1st June 2018"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:24:18 GMT
Stick that on a fucking bus.
I've just pinged off an email to the Maltese High Commission asking for clarification on my application for citizenship for my family.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:35:02 GMT
I wish they would put it on a bus, the lemmings should be forced to acknowledge what they were following.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 12, 2018 14:33:28 GMT
I wish they would put it on a bus, the lemmings should be forced to acknowledge what they were following. ...as an MEP, of course, Nigel is entitled to use his own, immediately recognisable, bus.....
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