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Post by Alanović on Nov 23, 2022 12:46:47 GMT
The UK and Ireland are jointly bidding for Euro 2028. Of course I'd like to see us host it, and of course the stadiums are already there so it's ideal. What I'd like to know is that, if the tournament is awarded to us, will we get 5 automatic places? Or will it be limited to fewer, or even just one? That's going to be a bit of a knot to untangle. There's absolutely no information in that regard yet.
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 23, 2022 13:01:51 GMT
Maybe a pre-tournament tournament between the five home nations to decide which two or three get into the main one??
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Post by bpg on Nov 23, 2022 13:25:17 GMT
What's happening for the 2026 World Cup ? It's being hosted in Mexico, USA & Canada. Who has the freebie into the finals there ? Actually it could be all three as the number of teams rise from 32 to 48.
24 teams in the Euros for 2024.
How many stadiums in Wales could take 40,000+ ? There's the national stadium in Cardiff plus Cardiff and Swansea have both played in the PL, beyond that I'm struggling to think of another stadium.
Scotland has a few more with 3 in Edinburgh, 3 (maybe more) in and around Glasgow plus Aberdeen all having hosted European competition. The Dundee clubs ?
I think two hosts from a total of 24 is a fair number otherwise the Faroe isles, Lichtenstein, Andorra and San Marino might put in a joint bid. 😁
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Post by Alanović on Nov 23, 2022 13:30:54 GMT
So long as we get games at the best 3 stadiums in the UK - Craven Cottage, Somerset Park and Stag Meadow - we're golden.
For 2026, all 3 hosts have been granted places. Which is fine, as they'd probably all qualify anyway, as they've done this year. The UK plus Ireland is a far thornier issue. I've always thought it's a bit bad that we get to enter 4 teams from the UK anyway, nobody else from "federated" (or whatever you want to call it) nations gets such a privilege. Tradition and too late to change it I suppose, but it is a bit of a cheek.
Here's the shortlist of UK stadiums for 2028, if we are awarded the tournament 10 will be chosen from these:
Cardiff, Wales – Principality Stadium, capacity 73,931 Belfast, Northern Ireland – Casement Park, proposed capacity 34,578 (redevelopment due 2023) Birmingham, England – Villa Park, capacity 42,682 Dublin, Ireland – Aviva Stadium, capacity 51,700 Dublin, Ireland – Croke Park, capacity 82,300 Glasgow, Scotland – Hampden Park, capacity 51,866 Liverpool, England – Everton Stadium, capacity 52,888 (Under Construction) London, England – London Stadium, capacity 66,000 London, England – Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, capacity 62,850 London, England – Wembley Stadium, capacity 90,000 Manchester, England – City of Manchester Stadium, capacity 53,000 Manchester, England – Old Trafford, capacity 74,310 Newcastle, England – St James' Park, capacity 52,305 Sunderland, England – Stadium of Light, capacity 49,000
Great to see Anfield ignored, horrible place. Only 1 candidate in Scotland is a piss take. Should be offering Murrayfield also. Not sure any other Scottish or Welsh Stadiums are suitable without expansions, which would make them white elephants in the future.
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Post by bpg on Nov 23, 2022 13:42:36 GMT
I think it's bad London gets three venues, Manchester two and the North East two while there is nothing from Leeds to Luton, nothing down the M1 corridor.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 23, 2022 13:59:12 GMT
Fair point but there's nowt there. All the Yorkshire grounds are badly out of date, none in the East Midlands is big enough.
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 23, 2022 14:01:06 GMT
Depends on the capacity. An international football competition held in the UK will fill pretty much every stadium available. I went to Old Trafford (ugh) to watch Brazil v South Korea in 2012 for the Olympics. So you will need 40,000+. What stadium from Luton to Sunderland (on the M1/A1 corridor) has that capacity?
Leicester is only 32,000 Notts Forest is 30,000 Elland Road is 38,000
so its no surprise that there is no representation from the east of England.
And with talk about adding 7,500 to the Etihad increasing capacity to over 60,000 I wonder if Old Trafford will get the boot.
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Post by bpg on Nov 23, 2022 14:20:08 GMT
Based on those numbers Forest looks the best bet if (and it's a big IF) they can hold on to Premiership football. They've maintained a 30,000 capacity having not been in the top League for around quarter of a century.
Leeds adding 2,000 capacity should be doable, depends on proximity of local developments, from what I remember there was space near the ground but that was twenty-something years ago when I drove past the ground on a regular basis heading out of Leeds when the M1 was blocked.
Leicester looks a non-starter having been champions in 2016 and still playing a relatively small capacity stadium by PL standards.
Edit: I was about to suggest Don Valley Stadium but that was demolished in 2013, maybe I'm a bit out of touch. 🤣
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 23, 2022 14:52:49 GMT
Hillsborough is just under 40,000 but may have some stigma attached
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Post by Alanović on Nov 23, 2022 15:16:33 GMT
It's just old and scruffy. FIFA want new and shiny for their tournaments now.
Fair play to Japan. 2 massive shocks now.
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Post by bpg on Nov 23, 2022 15:38:50 GMT
It's just like watching Scotland ! 🤣
Even before today's game I've been in Germany since 1998 for most WC and Euro championships, exceptions being 2004 & 2010, and never have they been less interested in a tournament, saying they were not going to watch.
Usually cars have flags from the windows and stocking covers on door mirrors. None of that this time. You wouldn't know there was a World Cup on walking round the streets here.
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 23, 2022 15:42:51 GMT
tbf - there is no huge World Cup excitement on the streets of Bury. One of my colleagues is unable to watch any match apart from at the weekend, as he is working during the day and the 7pm kick off is when he is putting the kids to bed.
Germany were poor today and Japan are always a potential giant killer - fair play to them. I wonder if whoever wins the competition gets a metaphorical asterisk next to their name, like City did for the 2020/21 season as it was played almost entirely behind closed doors.
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Post by WDB on Nov 23, 2022 15:42:59 GMT
Not much evidence of football fever here either. Yet to see my first St George flag on a van.
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 24, 2022 13:12:14 GMT
Well I have to say that the most exciting match so far was Belgium v Canada and the Belgians won by the skin of their teeth. If only the Canadians had a proper striker, they would have won about 6 - 1.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 24, 2022 13:36:39 GMT
My thoughts exactly on the Canuks.
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