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Post by Humph on Jun 2, 2020 20:04:29 GMT
Ah now that would explain it ! ( all joking aside ) I can stay with the leccy MTBs or even give them a run for their money sometimes on shallow climbs where I guess I'm sometimes just about exceeding 25kph and they have a whole lot more bike to pedal up the hill, but on steep climbs they smoke me.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 2, 2020 21:34:45 GMT
With 48/36 and 11/36 F/R, I'm not badly geared. The previous e-bike was a bit under-geared for me (I like to ride a bit higher-geared than maybe I ought to). The weight tells a bit, but not over much on the flat (I've said before, a 54 mile outing along the Mosel, which by definition is almost flat, only required use of the battery on two steep ramps, and even then, "required" is really an overstatement, it was used "because I can").
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you encounter "non-road-legal" MTBs on your outings. On these, the power limit on the motor, and the assistance cut-out, can be very much higher than road-legal pedelecs, and the hack is is easy and common on the bikes that support it.
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Post by Humph on Jun 2, 2020 21:42:20 GMT
That does make me feel better about many things. Thank you.
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Post by WDB on Jun 3, 2020 9:14:22 GMT
With 48/36 and 11/36 F/R, I'm not badly geared. I’ve seen e-bike specs — not that I’ve looked at many — that seem to omit one end or the other of the gear range, perhaps on the assumption that cruising and climbing will be mostly dealt with by the motor. Yours, on the other hand, wouldn’t look out of place on one of Bromp’s Dawes tourers. How are e-bikes as companions on the trails, Humph? I totally get them for town transport, going to work and the like, but in places that would normally be off-limits to powered, or even assisted, machinery...? That said, I don’t think I’ve seen one on my off-road ventures. |
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 3, 2020 9:46:50 GMT
Can't say the concept of an e-MTB really appeals to me (but there again, the MTB thing doesn't really appeal anyway, off-road riding is something different), but.... ..an acquaintance up the road had his and his wife's pretty expensive MTBs stolen in Scotland last year (They actually stole his self-converted Transit campervan in order to have it away with the bikes - the 'van was recovered quickly, of the bikes there has been 'nary a sign). They decided to be opportunistic with the insurance money and upgrade to a couple of e-MTBs, something akin to this (though possibly even the next model up): www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/bikes/mountain-bikes/electric-mountain-bikes/rail/rail-5/p/30037/?colorCode=greendark_blackThey have both had grins on their faces ever since. I came up against them in the forest a couple of weeks ago, and though they both have "analogue" bikes, they are now rarely used, and they do some very rough stuff out in the Peak District. |
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Post by Humph on Jun 3, 2020 9:47:02 GMT
I'm a bit Jekyll and Hyde about them in truth. They are becoming a very common sight at the trail centres. I do totally get it if the rider has health limitations that might otherwise prevent them from accessing and enjoying the trails. And, I'm not so churlish as to underestimate the fun factor for those who just want to use one.
For me though, hair shirtishly enough, I do it for excercise as well as fun, and the reward for the effort in the climb is the thrill of the descent. However, come the day the climbs are too much for me, I'll be plugging in with the rest of them.
It is a slight issue on the trails given the speed difference between electric and human powered bikes, occasionally causing ( almost totally inadvertent) conflict, but there's usually no problem. It's more about the narrower trails where you might pull out to overtake a slower rider only to find a a leccy right up your chuff. A bit like getting into lane 3 on the motorway in a Panda, only to see a black Audi looming large in the rear view mirror.
In truth I've never ridden a leccy, so I can't say how they feel on the the rough stuff, but I instinctively feel that their extra bulk must be tricky when really throwing them around and potentially very expensive if, OK, when it all goes TU.
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Post by Humph on Jun 3, 2020 10:00:16 GMT
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Post by WDB on Jun 3, 2020 10:08:05 GMT
Twelve Thousand Pounds! I see what you mean. That would buy Vić four cars — or about six months’ worth of car repairs. 😈
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Post by Humph on Jun 3, 2020 10:10:03 GMT
I don't know whether to cringe or laugh at their tag line at the bottom of that page.
"WBF"
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 3, 2020 10:10:15 GMT
I’ve seen e-bike specs — not that I’ve looked at many — that seem to omit one end or the other of the gear range, perhaps on the assumption that cruising and climbing will be mostly dealt with by the motor. Yours, on the other hand, wouldn’t look out of place on one of Bromp’s Dawes tourers. ...the Yamaha motor system on that bike was the only one at the time (and probably still is) that would take a double chainring. Given that the main issue I had with the original issue was the gearing, it was a factor in the selection. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 10:18:33 GMT
Fell in a hedge yesterday, lads.
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Post by Humph on Jun 3, 2020 10:19:51 GMT
You're not the first !
Hope you're ok?
Caused nearly £5 worth of damage to the bike? 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 10:30:25 GMT
Just a cut ear and some grazing on an ankle.
Also hit a sticky-out branch on a narrow lane as a big van hurtled past in the other direction, about 5 minutes after my little rest in the hedgerow. I'll just say it's a good job I was wearing some sunglasses otherwise I might have sustained a serious injury.
Not a good day.
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Post by Humph on Jun 3, 2020 10:31:58 GMT
Never good, landing on your ear...
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 3, 2020 10:34:51 GMT
Never good, landing on your ear... ...and it's unlikely we can blame the drink..... |
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