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Post by Rob on Jul 31, 2022 0:21:16 GMT
I wonder how the tyre wear will compare to the MB E-Class you had previously. BEVs are heavy cars. And the wear leads to particulates in the air. We are doomed.  |
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 31, 2022 8:03:42 GMT
I'll let you know....
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Post by bpg on Jul 31, 2022 8:42:07 GMT
Interesting conundrum however not all tyres are the same compound otherwise HGVs would be changing tyres at the end of every street.
I do know the load index on our BEV is higher than on the Focus estate we have even though the Focus is capable of much higher speed and cornering forces.
Yes, if using maximum acceleration the driven tyres aren't going to last long but that's also true on powerful ICE cars.
Braking, you do very little of that in a modern BEV so the wheels don't get covered in brake dust. The rear disks are starting to rust on our two year old example, the disks will need replacing long before the pads wear out.
Edit: I tried to find the weight numbers for the current (L460) LR Range Rover and failed. The numbers for its predecessor (L405; 2013-2021) 2,160 - 2,360kgs, that's within a big rugby player passenger for comparison with modern BEVs.
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Post by WDB on Jul 31, 2022 9:12:25 GMT
I wonder how the tyre wear will compare to the MB E-Class you had previously. BEVs are heavy cars. And the wear leads to particulates in the air. We are doomed. tackled this one. The tyre particulates are much larger than those from diesel emissions, too big to escape the the filters in our noses and throats. This makes them much less hazardous. |
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 1, 2022 11:00:59 GMT
The car is noisier over rough motorway surfaces than the Merc. Probably a combination of wider and lower profile tyres and less sound insulation. It was hard to hear the football commentary (I was in the car for the first half coming home from a trip out) at various points. Luckily nothing overly important happened.
I tell you waht I do love... the flat floor at the front and no centre console from the seats to the dash. I can get in the car and drop my briefcase or sports bag on the floor next to me and still have lots of room for a front seat passenger. Haven't got to open the back door or use the boot. Can't do that with an EV6 which is one of the reasons why I took the Hyundai over the Kia.
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Post by WDB on Aug 1, 2022 11:36:39 GMT
That wouldn’t sway me. The i3 has a similarly unobstructed floor — even a little elastic strap for securing…not sure what. But I’d rather not risk having anything loose around my feet when I’m driving, so I don’t use it. I will put a flat-based shopping bag in the passenger footwell, though, because for some reason it seems less likely to fall over there than in the boot.
Conversely, I rather liked the more conventionally enveloping driver environment in the EV6. (I’ve yet to even sit in an Ioniq 5.) And the one in the iPace — which is also blissfully quiet at almost any speed and on any surface, the better to show off that Meridian audio system. If I’m honest, that’s the feature that’s still pulling me towards the Jaguar; while the iX3 is in most respects the ‘head’ choice among those I’ve tried, I’ve never heard music sound as good in a car as the iPace makes it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 11:48:34 GMT
I was looking at a visiting i-Pace parked in my areas recently. I had a sudden an uncontrollable fit of the yips when I thought about how much tyres must cost for it. I know, that's not a factor of it being an EV, but it's evidently in the SUV bracket when it comes to tyres and on that basis, Evan, I'm out. And again yes, yes I know that's a stupid thing to base a decision on. But there we go. That's me.
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Post by WDB on Aug 1, 2022 14:01:03 GMT
Possibly, but only really a concern if you’re doing an awful lot more driving than we WAH types do these days. I remember deciding against a Sport model E320 ten years ago because it had such big, expensive tyres — and indeed the E220 I bought instead was very easy on its rubber — but then bought the CLS and its 285x19, £230 rears, of which it’s eaten more than I’d like. But it’s not needed a tyre for a year now and, barring mishaps, won’t need one for the rest of its time with me.
So yes, big, fast cars have big, expensive tyres. But if that’s the market you’re in, that’s just how it is. Not a dealbreaker, for me at least.
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Post by bpg on Aug 1, 2022 14:48:13 GMT
I get the flat floor benefits for the middle passenger on the rear seat or the extra space if you have something with seven seats. Not keen on the idea of an executive sandwich box jamming behind the brake pedal though.
In my car the boot is for luggage and anything loose to be contained in, passenger space is for er, passengers.
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Post by Rob on Aug 1, 2022 19:00:51 GMT
I always put anything in the boot when I got in because when you got out if you didn't want it with you, then you'd have to open the boot and advertise the fact you have put something in the boot. And for safety reasons too.
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 2, 2022 9:29:54 GMT
We all do different things. My briefcase contains my laser tape measure, camera, clipboard, pens, notes, batteries and I walk around with it on inspections. The space between where I put it when I drive and the brake pedal is so large that the case is nowhere near the pedal and my leg is in the way. It doesn't move anyway even if I accelerate and brake sharply.
Shopping on the other hand always goes in the boot; even it is one square Aldi bag.
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Post by bpg on Aug 4, 2022 14:47:44 GMT
What's the service interval on your car EspIII ? When we checked KIA it was 12 months or 15,000kms. Reality is the car is demanding a service every 9 months. I'm going to check if this is a dealer set interval when it goes in.
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Post by WDB on Aug 4, 2022 15:30:41 GMT
Really? Our first i3 required one service in nearly four years. Most of that was probably an oil change for the seldom-used Rex motor.
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Post by bpg on Aug 4, 2022 17:01:51 GMT
The first service they filled up the coolant, checked brake and washer fluids, kicked the tyres and gave us a detailed report of bodywork scratches mainly around door handles caused by finger nails.
Cost: 190€
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 8:37:05 GMT
I've now had both a Major and Minor service on my current Leaf. The major last year consisted of: Washer fluid, cabin filter and brake fluid - £174 plus VAT. Minor this year was just cabin filter and washer fluid - £132 plus VAT. Obviously both also cover the various visual checks, and they will top up coolant and gear oil if required although it's not marked as having been needed on either receipt. Traction battery health check and software updates applied if needed (on that note, I get the distinct feeling that regen is stronger after yesterday's service, could just be in my mind though). Also, I get a year's breakdown recovery after the service, and any MOT work needed up to £700 is covered should anything crop up. Disappointed they didn't plug it in to charge up but the charger bays were full of current shape Leafses when I rolled up to collect. Wash and hoover/dusting was done too.
On balance I think it's worth doing at the main dealer for these vehicles, especially given the epically low running costs overall.
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