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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 15:27:50 GMT
The slight flaw in that plan is that I don't think Starmer is anything like likely to remove the Conservative party. He's hardly surrounded by better candidates though.
The thing with Johnson is that they have to get him on something that people beyond just the shouty few care about.
The state of British politics is depressing. Maybe the media and the politicians should swap jobs, they both seem to know far more about what the other should be doing than they seem to know about their own activities.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2022 8:13:18 GMT
What's more depressing than the state of politics, is the state of the electorate's values in persisting to elect these onanists, although of course because of our electoral system the government majority is derived from a clear minority vote. We genuinely need to fix that - yes, I know, grrr coalitions and random nutters in Parliament (as if it could be much worse than utter pr1cks like Fabricant) etc etc. There is no perfect answer, however there are better options than the current status quo. "But Tradition" cannot be allowed to be the killer argument.
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Post by dixinormus on May 24, 2022 8:45:30 GMT
Much of the electorate just don’t care Al. As long as KFC is open tonight and Netflix/YouTube/social meeja is working you could put a gibbon in charge of the country.
Didn’t the police receive panicky phone calls las time YouTube went down..?!
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Post by bpg on May 24, 2022 10:00:42 GMT
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Post by WDB on May 25, 2022 13:35:48 GMT
Well if Johnson's chickens don't come home to roost this week, I think it's safe to say they never will. He's clearly never going to resign over anything.., True yet again. His idea of taking ‘full responsibility’ is to find some underlings to blame, then carry on as if nothing ever happened. Humble, my arse. Let’s be clear again. Presiding over these parties is very far from the worst thing he’s done. But lying to parliament, and by extension to all of us, massively compounds the offence. But his own side — like their 1990s counterparts — know their bread is buttered on the side of sitting tight and waiting until 2024, assuming they’ve not voted by them to abolish elections altogether. So they won’t eject him. Perhaps the queen will do us all a big platinum favour next week and save them the trouble. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 13:44:12 GMT
Well there we are, the whole problem with an unelected Head of State in a nutshell. She can't. Our constitution isn't worth the paper it isn't written on. OK so any bad actor can over-ride any constitution at any given time, given teh necessaery will to do so, but surely we deserve a better one than we've got, one which stands a chance against a charlatan like Johnson? We need PR, and an elected Irish-style Head of State to start with.
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Post by WDB on May 29, 2022 13:38:14 GMT
I see the latest playing-to-the-nostalgia-gallery distraction is a return to furlongs, bushels and barleycorns. Can the shilling be far behind? Global Britain, my arse. Welcome to Theme Park Britain. We have blue (well, black) passports too, you know.
Even Australia, which the Farage lobby fetishise, abandoned ancient units for good 30 years ago and has no regrets. Peter Hitchens approves, though, which tells you all you need to know.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 29, 2022 13:44:55 GMT
The Americans manage with (sort of) Imperial measurements but in reality only for consumers. Science/engineering businesses use metric.
Property still uses Imperial for some reason but we report both.
I would be happy with pints of milk/beer, gallons of fuel (given we still use mpg as as economy guide) and pounds of weight for food but otherwise I don't see the point. Other countries have their own measures but mostly they use metric. Yes, more things divide in 12 than ten but precision is easier with decimal.
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Post by WDB on May 29, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
America is a huge, uniform market so it can, to great extent, set its own rules. All we’d be doing is setting ourselves apart. The pint so beloved of the Faragists isn’t used ANYWHERE else. And unless you’ve got a week to spare and nothing to do, don’t even think about fluid ounces.
Hitchens this morning was wibbling about ‘natural’ units, and how a Normandy farmer will still sell you ‘a pound of butter’. He won’t; he’ll sell you un livre, which is exactly half a kilo. It’s a colloquial expression for a convenient quantity (not that would be convenient for a block of butter), just as Italians use the etto.
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Post by bpg on May 30, 2022 9:39:04 GMT
Well the good news as reported in the Daily Express is "Boris Johnson is expected to announce the return of imperial measurements to mark the occasion."
The occasion being the Platiunum Jubilee.
I hope it includes petrol stations. Should get rid of a few Brexiteers to find their £1.75 litre of petrol is now £7.95 rounded up to £8 to make it easier to calculate.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 30, 2022 9:56:25 GMT
It will increase the number of people wanting to buy EVs  |
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Post by bpg on May 30, 2022 10:15:25 GMT
The government will probably deem all electricity be sold in megajoules now the car industry appears to have standardised on kWh.
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Post by WDB on May 30, 2022 10:19:18 GMT
Expect a return to the BTU. It won the Second World War, you know. 🙄
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Post by bpg on May 30, 2022 11:13:01 GMT
I've started looking at the DE website to make me laugh in the mornings.
Greene King are doing a deal today, you can have a pint for 6p, limited to one and you have to know the password (1952).
Of course, being the DE, there has to be some pointing how it would have been 6d in 1952, 2.5p not 6p. I suppose 6p is too much of a stretch for some.
Makes you hope they scrape together enough 6p's to visit enough pubs to get the two Bob bits.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 10:21:36 GMT
Rumours of 54 letters now having been reached and that Graham Brady won't announce until after the long holiday weekend. With Andrea Loathsome coming out with her half arsed hatchet job this morning, it could be true. Never not one for seeing a bandwagon and jumping in front of it and shouting charge.
Wonder if it's all over for him now. Be a bit of a shame really, he'd be fairly certain of losing the next GE. What we really need though is for the Tories to lose 2 consecutive GEs now, heavily, in order to purge them of this nationalist populist wing that's taken them over, and get them back to the pragmatic party of business and international co-operation they once were.
Hoping they choose another absolute moron to lead the party (chances are high, there are barely any rational adults left in the party) - I'd rather take 2 more years of horror followed by the wilderness than any chance of them staying in government at the next GE.
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