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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 5, 2022 18:04:30 GMT
You would have thought so. To any normal person, running country is not easy but lying about basic, easily verifiable facts is the one thing that should disqualify anyone from public office irrespective of how good they might be at the job they were elected to do.
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Post by WDB on Jul 5, 2022 18:19:19 GMT
It took a year after Lawson resigned for Thatcher to go, but he differed with her over policy. Sunak and Javid are (belatedly) pointing out Johnson’s lack of integrity and competence.
It does make it hard to know who is a credible candidate to succeed him. No minister who’s been sent out on the morning media round to offer that day’s crock of horseshit, knowing the story will have changed by lunchtime but doing it anyway can ever be credible again. Not that any PM with any regard for competence would appoint Coffey, Zahawi or — especially — the idiot Raaaab.
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Post by Rob on Jul 5, 2022 19:18:27 GMT
Cue the 'Pincher Movement' articles.
Boris will try lying his way out of this no doubt. And maybe he'll call a general election before he's ousted to try and win a mandate with the public? I would not put that one past him.
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Post by WDB on Jul 5, 2022 19:47:53 GMT
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Post by WDB on Jul 6, 2022 7:37:28 GMT
Hilarious blathering from Chief Stooge Zahawi on R4 just now. ‘We make decisions at warp speed’ is this week’s misdirecting catchphrase. He said it three times.
Two more resignations were announced as he spoke. Nick Robinson put it plainly: “It’s over, isn’t it?” Zahawi blathered on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2022 9:13:28 GMT
He will not leave office of his own volition under any circumstances.
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Post by Humph on Jul 6, 2022 9:46:15 GMT
I’d guess it’s not now a case of “if” but “when” he goes. However, it’s also a worry as to “what” happens next. In some ways it might be better if he clings on long enough to crash and burn at the next GE.
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Post by bpg on Jul 6, 2022 19:31:11 GMT
By process of elimination Nadine Dorries and Anne-Marie Trevelyan are inching closer to positions where they can do real damage.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 6, 2022 21:14:30 GMT
Gove sacked. Not surprised.
I like Gove. Don't know why other than I heard him speak many years ago at some function and he seemed to make sense. Therefore probably useless as a politician.
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Post by WDB on Jul 6, 2022 22:04:53 GMT
Very intelligent man. Not to be trusted with anything.
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Post by WDB on Jul 6, 2022 22:40:00 GMT
Feeling dirty now. I took a rare — unprecedented — look at the Express site. And even that now thinks Johnson is cooked. Well, the top half does; the commenters are another matter: ‘desperate lefties’, ‘media witch-hunt’ — I’m sure you could write your own and not be far off.
This is Trump all over again. Thankfully without the armed mob. Both show in the manner of their fall from power how unfit they ever were to be entrusted with it.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 7, 2022 5:53:22 GMT
The problem of course is who replaces him. Don't want a lame duck Biden clone nor someone too leftwing who will do further damage to the economy or society.
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Post by WDB on Jul 7, 2022 6:58:57 GMT
Gawd — Suella Braverman and Steve Baker want to be candidates. If it’s going to be about initials, maybe Simon Bates and Sarah Beeny would like a go. I trust none of those four would be too leftwing or too competent to pass the Esp suitability test.
I don’t get the leftwing point. There isn’t going to be a general election, more’s the pity, because there doesn’t have to be and the Conservatives would lose if there was. That’s just part of Johnson’s false, self-centred narrative — another Trump parallel. Most of those opposing him are espousing the view that he’s somehow ‘not conservative enough’, so I doubt you’ll have to worry about menaces to good government like letting poor people get enough to eat, or actually building those 40 promised new hospitals.
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Post by bpg on Jul 7, 2022 7:46:20 GMT
I read the Queen had returned from Sandringham.
She had better act quick, the house goes into recess two weeks from today. They then return in September for a few days before party conference season for three weeks then October break, then it's November and no one can remember what this was all about.
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Post by WDB on Jul 7, 2022 7:58:16 GMT
I wouldn’t expect her to ‘act’ in the sense of doing anything preemptive. She needs to be at the palace to receive Johnson’s resignation if he goes to volunteer it, or to ask him if he’s still capable of forming a government, as he promised her he was in 2019.
Apparently they have their regular Wednesday audience by video now, but this would have to be face to face.
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