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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 16:55:13 GMT
I really like the DSG. Anyway, without it, the adaptive cruise wouldn't work to its full potential and I might actually have to touch a pedal on occasion, which would be an awful bore.
I have watched some Youtube videos of the Tesla self driving stuff in the UK, and I'm always struck at what it basically does isn't very much more than I have on a three year old car, and mine actually works. Hmm.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 22, 2021 17:33:16 GMT
I think the Octavia has been an excellent car since the first one was launched. The current ones are very smart cars.
Sensible reasons for returning to ICE from EV. I do a couple of long trips each year which would not have worked in older EVs but more modern ones with fast charging make sense, as long as I plan. I don't mind doing that.
My last long trip was to Alloa from Manchester. I met a guy at a service station driving an electric Hyundai Kona I think. Said he did tens of thousands of miles a year and loved EVs. He simply planned his trips around a series of 150 mile journeys, with a charge, drink and eat stop in between.
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Post by Humph on Dec 22, 2021 17:37:16 GMT
A friend has an Octavia estate. Very old thing with a lot of miles. Looks like a survivor of some form of apocalypse, but it soldiers on. Diesel manual with chunky winter/mud and snow tyres on it. Uses it as a platform for his mountain biking addiction.
The car wouldn’t fetch as much as the wheels on his main bike, but that’s not his priority.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 22, 2021 17:48:49 GMT
You how you tell reliable cars from the ones taxi drivers use?
In Israel the Octavia was the car of choice for years. Seats four in comfort, five without too much issue, and has a long, deep boot. The ones I used to get in always had 200,000+ miles on them. Saw several with 500,000km on the clock. They were a bit beaten up internally and had a christmas tree dashboard, but they just fired up and drove along.
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 18:13:41 GMT
Like all of us, I've had many cars. There's not that many I can recall that induced a grin when driving on the odd occasion, not from speed, or overtaking, or anything exuberant really. Just it all coming together at some point for some reason.
I sometimes get that with the Octavia, but only a bit. I do wonder, though, if I might get a bit more from a Superb.
I definitely got it with a Lexus LS (but not a GS) and a TVR, as you might expect. I didn't get it with a XJ12. But I got it with a boggo Mondeo way back in 1999, and also my first car, a Moggie. All the ones in between were not quite the same.
I only had two cars I didn't get on with at all - too nothing at all. One was a Toyota Auris, bought as a distress purchase, and the other a Focus, also a distress purchase.
Lesson - do not make distress purchases.
I wonder what it is that makes some of the least likely candidates the ones that stick in your memory.
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Post by Humph on Dec 22, 2021 18:18:39 GMT
Well, “they” are really mean to me here about the Jeep Renegade my wife now has, but it has a certain something about it that makes it a pleasure to drive. For no explicable reason, I’d willingly grant.
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 18:36:15 GMT
I can see Mrs C liking that. She's not a driver so would just go on looks, and it has a certain cutesyness. What's its gpm?
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Post by Humph on Dec 22, 2021 18:40:35 GMT
Supposed to be 47, but it seems to get about 40 dotting about. (1.4 manual)
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 18:45:29 GMT
gpm wasn't a typo...
But that's pretty darned good actually. My old Mondeo used to get about 45 and I was always very pleased with that. Now I'm spoiled by the Octavia - 55 to 65, depending on town or longer run (got a 70 once).
I guess there'll be an electric jeep in due course. The Jeep Inexplicable or something.
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 18:51:19 GMT
Sensible reasons for returning to ICE from EV. I do a couple of long trips each year which would not have worked in older EVs but more modern ones with fast charging make sense, as long as I plan. I don't mind doing that. My last long trip was to Alloa from Manchester. I met a guy at a service station driving an electric Hyundai Kona I think. Said he did tens of thousands of miles a year and loved EVs. He simply planned his trips around a series of 150 mile journeys, with a charge, drink and eat stop in between. You speak much sense, Espada, but it's the planning that I find a bore. If it were just "make a plan, off we go", then perhaps it would be ok, but in reality it always seems to me for anything at range you need a plan A, a plan B, a plan B sub paragraph seven section nine, a plan C, a plan c corrigenda - and I just want to go for a picnic at the seaside and come home, ta. Might cost me 15p a mile instead of 5p, perhaps, but then it hasn't cost me thirty thousand quid to get into the thing in the first place. And having said ALL that, if I WERE looking at an EV, a Kona/e-Niro might well be high on the list. |
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 22, 2021 18:52:10 GMT
I have always tried to buy interesting cars, but some over promised and under delivered. Others by contrast were wonderful beyond expectations.
My favourite was the S-Max. I called it the seven seat Ferrari. Possibly the best family car Ford (if not anyone) has ever built. I wish I had driven one with the Volvo 5-pot turbo engine, but it was manual only and given my type of driving, that was too much of a pfaff. But even the boggy 2.0 TDCi with the six speed slushbox was a great drive.
It is one of the few cars I would happily have back.
I love the comments about MPG. I am not a heavy driver, but even in the 17 year old 1.2l Punto I am currently tooling around in pending arrival of Ioniq 5, the economy is only just 40mpg. Clearly I do far too much urban driving compared to others.
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Post by Humph on Dec 22, 2021 18:58:36 GMT
Ok so what’s gpm then? Is it something young people say?
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Post by Rob on Dec 22, 2021 19:05:24 GMT
I still find it surprising how many complain about the VW groups DSGs. I had two (albeit the dry clutch 7 speed) and never had a problem. I didn't get on in a test drive of a Passat CC with a DSG but later worked out the problem when manoeuvring was the auto-hold and not the DSG. They will creep like a TC.
Now the automated manual 208 I had on Corfu was fine to drive but not to move at low speed. You had no control over clutch so using only right foot for brake and accelerator meant it would not move easily on a slight gradient. Later I thought this was a car that perhaps needed two foot operation but I never tried it. Current 208 auto is now an 8 speed TC.
As for my Superb with DSG and adaptive cruise, it also had lane keep assist - maybe Crankcase's Octavia does too. It just worked. Four years on from when I got it (so available for longer) and you read reviews of cars having this tech and the writer is making out if it's something amazing and new.
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 19:41:20 GMT
Ok so what’s gpm then? Is it something young people say? 😬 No, sorry, I don't count as a young person anymore. No, it was nothing forget it. Just some home made chocolate sponge pudding induced hysteria. Too much sugar. |
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Post by crankcase on Dec 22, 2021 19:47:42 GMT
I still find it surprising how many complain about the VW groups DSGs. I had two (albeit the dry clutch 7 speed) and never had a problem. I didn't get on in a test drive of a Passat CC with a DSG but later worked out the problem when manoeuvring was the auto-hold and not the DSG. They will creep like a TC. Now the automated manual 208 I had on Corfu was fine to drive but not to move at low speed. You had no control over clutch so using only right foot for brake and accelerator meant it would not move easily on a slight gradient. Later I thought this was a car that perhaps needed two foot operation but I never tried it. Current 208 auto is now an 8 speed TC. As for my Superb with DSG and adaptive cruise, it also had lane keep assist - maybe Crankcase's Octavia does too. It just worked. Four years on from when I got it (so available for longer) and you read reviews of cars having this tech and the writer is making out if it's something amazing and new. My old boss bought a new Passat with DSG, and yes, you had to tart about with the auto hold to make it actually useful. He had no idea and for months was lurching about all pale faced and shaky in and out of parking spaces. My 2018 Octy doesn't have lane assist. My old 2010 Volvo kind of did, in that it beeped at you if you did something it didn't like with lanes, but it didn't pull about on the steering. I've read the Superb assist can be a bit aggressive - is it a nuisance on poorly marked roads? I ask because if I were buying one tomorrow, I'd be putting the "travel assist" option on. And that's because I'm really lazy and fancy the new "predictive adaptive cruise", as opposed to plain old adaptive cruise I have now. But travel assist comes with lane assist, so be interesting to know if it's more trouble than it's worth? |
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