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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 17:01:04 GMT
>>Brexit really is an issue in this situation
Unless you have some dream of clicking your heels and returning us to Kansas then it is probably time to simply accept that what is, is, and we now need to deal with it. It doesn't get better for blaming something.
Economically it would have been better to remain part of the EU. Socially probably not, the EU wasn't going in a good direction. [which I actually think Brexit has impacted for the general good if not our own benefit].
So, the situation we face is the situation we face. And within it there are advantages to be found and disadvantages to suffer. Some I'll suck up, some I'll exploit.
Any change has potential. Arguably the only situation which contains no opportunity is the status quo.
Don't get me wrong, I largely agree with you on Brexit but the event is in the past. Now it's a new reality. I don't know anybody who has ever made a success of living in, or dwelling on, the past, Bruce Forsyth being perhaps one exception.
>>with objective certainty by observing empirical reality
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't really think that statement through.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 17:12:23 GMT
Why thank you for that benefit, I have missed being patronised in an abrupt manner. Who said I don't accept what the situation is, and the need to deal with it? I also didn't make any claims to improving the situation by moaning about it, however I reserve the right to moan. Welcome back, nice to see you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 17:34:28 GMT
>>Why thank you for that benefit, I have missed being patronised in an abrupt manner.
I would have said dismissed rather than patronised but, semantics to one side, you are most welcome.
>>Who said I don't accept what the situation is, and the need to deal with it?
Buggered if I know, certainly not me. However, if you feel the cap fits.......
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Post by bromptonaut on Jan 8, 2022 12:16:05 GMT
Back when I switched from Octopus variable to a fixed tariff, Martin Lewis was telling people not to switch to a fixed tariff because the capped tariff would be less. Now he's saying how terrible this increase will be for people on variable tariffs when the cap increase in April.... So will be apologise for the poor advice he was giving? I doubt it. Not sure I'm getting your point here. Advice to go for the capped tariff rather than a fix AND saying the prices after April will be awful for the less well off are not in any way inconsistent with one another. With hindsight going for a fix in the late summer might have been the way to go but that which is visible with hindsight is not something to apologise for. He was giving the same advice on You and Yours in the last few days. My fixed tariff with SO ends tomorrow. Their fixed offer for 2 years (cheaper than one year) is Gas 8.73 Electricity Day 37.3 Night 29.56. The capped rate until April is Gas 3.96 Electricity Day 21.52 Night 15.65.
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Post by Rob on Jan 8, 2022 19:23:02 GMT
My point was that when he was saying it you could get a fixed tariff for the same as the capped variable ones. So you were fixed for 2 years. Using my actual usage figures for gas and electric meant the monthly cost on the EON Next fixed 2 year deal were fractionally more than the Octopus variable rate. But I knew the cap would increase this year.
As it happens I kept an eye on the EON Next tariff and the newer versions that kept replacing the one I was on and within a few weeks the monthly cost had gone up by over £80! Note I can leave at any time without penalty.
What are the standing charges for those tariffs? That can make a difference too.
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Post by bromptonaut on Jan 9, 2022 12:34:17 GMT
My point was that when he was saying it you could get a fixed tariff for the same as the capped variable ones. So you were fixed for 2 years. Using my actual usage figures for gas and electric meant the monthly cost on the EON Next fixed 2 year deal were fractionally more than the Octopus variable rate. But I knew the cap would increase this year. As it happens I kept an eye on the EON Next tariff and the newer versions that kept replacing the one I was on and within a few weeks the monthly cost had gone up by over £80! Note I can leave at any time without penalty. What are the standing charges for those tariffs? That can make a difference too. Makes sense now; there was a window when fixes were available at or close to the cap cost. The post I was questioning referred to the cap being cheaper than a fix which is certainly the case now.
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Post by bromptonaut on Feb 13, 2022 12:41:56 GMT
Mines not gone bust but they've had me over with very sharp practice.
As detailed here already I'm with So Energy. Until January I was on a 1 year fix called So Bluebell. At the end of that I was told I'd migrated to the capped So Flex tariff.
Last Saturday, after the new April cap rates had been announced, I had a look at So Energy's website to seek confirmation of how I might be affected.
Usually when I visit, eg to log my meter readings, I need to sign in. This time I was already signed in with the screen showing, on the left my current capped rates. On the right was a bright shiny invitation to consider whether I could save by going to their one or two year So Guava fixed rate.
Whilst there's nothing in public information from sources like Martin Lewis or Citizens Advice that any fixed rate deal is worthwhile I thought I'd see what the trend was compared to the post April Cap.
Literally two mouse clicks later, with no warning or anything clear about T&C or actual prices I got a welcome to your new tariff screen. From 05/02 I'm paying 37.08p for daytime electricity and 8.58p for gas.
The capped rates now are 21p and 4p respectively increasing to 28p and 7p from April. As they didn't take my February DD and the first under the new tariff is not due until March I' very rapidly accruing a mahoosive debit balance.
I feel I've been 'done'. There should be not even a hint of being better off on a fix where that's patently impossible.
I emailed immediately as their phone lines are Mo-Fri and are apparently under unprecedented call volumes.
No reply so far.
What does the panel think I should do next?
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 13, 2022 13:41:39 GMT
Sounds like sharp practice but I seen web errors before so try calling or Webchat etc. Most times this can be resolved easily. Before you do so, look at the best deals post April and see if you can negotiate with So.
I have no idea where I am up to with British Gas, I got moved there and think I am still on a tariff from Peoples Energy and whatever credit I had with them has now transferred over, so I am over £1,000 in credit, but much of that may well go soon, although my installation of solar panels will hopefully mean I am mostly immune from electricity price shocks in the future... famous last words....
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Post by Rob on Feb 13, 2022 15:44:10 GMT
Sounds like the wording of what you were clicking for was wrong. Wow 37.08p per unit of electric plus a daily charge?? Wow. I switched to EON last September for the October when my Octopus tariff ended. I think I pay 19p/kW for electric plus a daily charge and then 3.8p/kW for gas plus that daily charge.
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Post by bromptonaut on Feb 17, 2022 12:44:43 GMT
Update. Emailed SO Energy a few days ago based on a Citizens Advice template for taking advantage of 'cooling off' rights.
They replied yesterday reverting me to the So Flex capped tariff. They've done that from 05-02-22 meaning that from 08-01 on I've been billed at a fixed rate that actually expired on that date.
A saving of a few squids on the capped tariff so I'll treat that as a bonus.
I owe them a bit though as, during the tariff hiatus, they did not take my Feb DD.
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