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Post by dixinormus on Oct 7, 2021 2:39:12 GMT
Did I read somewhere that wholesale spot prices for natural gas went up by over 30% yesterday? Sounds alarming.
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Post by Alanović on Oct 7, 2021 7:58:38 GMT
Yep. Radio news this morning saying we need to look out for a £400-600 per annum rise in the domestic price cap next April.
There's a bit of Putin in this. He's been restricting supplies to Europe to fore our hand in to approving his Nordstream 2 gas pipelin which would avoid Ukraine and give him more contorl over teh supply to Europe. I say we shoudl let the baby have its bottle, but plan to do without gas within 10 years - nuclear and renewables. Obviuosly, having a elected a UK government which is heavily involved with Russian money, this won't happen.
Essentially, the West has squanderd its Cold War victory through arrogance and intransigence, Putin's aim has always been to re-construct the USSR in some form, and destroy the US. He's doing rather well.
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Post by Rob on Oct 16, 2021 19:55:32 GMT
Since switching to a new fixed tariff, I checked a few times to see what their current tariffs are like. Same electric and gas figures used and it's gone up by about £90/month! Goodness knows what the variable tariff would be like with Octopus in April.
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Post by Rob on Jan 4, 2022 22:22:17 GMT
Back when I switched from Octopus variable to a fixed tariff, Martin Lewis was telling people not to switch to a fixed tariff because the capped tariff would be less. Now he's saying how terrible this increase will be for people on variable tariffs when the cap increase in April.... So will be apologise for the poor advice he was giving? I doubt it.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 5, 2022 6:44:40 GMT
I'm not sure anyone understands what is going on, least of all the government. Certainly there are some very expensive and non-green solutions out there to problems caused by the rush to zero net carbon.
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Post by WDB on Jan 5, 2022 10:35:22 GMT
Not sure I understand the connection you’re making there, Esp. Worldwide gas prices have little to do with developments in renewable energy.
Meanwhile, we have the ‘Net Zero Scrutiny Group’ using high fossil prices as a pretext to press the government to let their boneheaded supporters go on doing what they like regardless of the long-term consequences.
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Post by Alanović on Jan 5, 2022 10:37:29 GMT
Is the Venn Diagram of the NZSC, anti-vaccine headcases and ERG a single circle?
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Post by bpg on Jan 5, 2022 12:14:20 GMT
I like Venn diagrams, you can group all kinds of what appear to be unrelated things imaginatively:
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Post by WDB on Jan 5, 2022 12:24:52 GMT
I get the joke but I disagree with the diagram. What goes in the three two-way intersections?
What you’ve described is a central set ‘…since Fergie left’ with three other sets intersecting it but not one another.
And no, I’ve not quite got properly back into Work mode. 🤓
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 5, 2022 12:27:04 GMT
We do have an home grown sector of the economy which we can use to reduce the very high gas prices. Fracking, but that is banned. Coal for the heritage steam train lines is imported from Khazakstan rather than being mined in Wales. It's bonkers.
Common sense is severely lacking
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 5, 2022 12:27:40 GMT
Fergie? What has the Duchess of York got to do with it??
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Post by Alanović on Jan 5, 2022 12:31:12 GMT
We do have an home grown sector of the economy which we can use to reduce the very high gas prices. Fracking, but that is banned. Coal for the heritage steam train lines is imported from Khazakstan rather than being mined in Wales. It's bonkers. Common sense is severely lacking It's common sense to frack for gas? It's common sense to keep coal mines open for heritage steam railways?
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Post by WDB on Jan 5, 2022 14:26:38 GMT
Meanwhile, we have the ‘Net Zero Scrutiny Group’ using high fossil prices as a pretext to press the government to let their boneheaded supporters go on doing what they like regardless of the long-term consequences. And they’d probably agree with this, abandoning long-term goals for short-term expediency and political popularity. I don’t. We do have an home grown sector of the economy which we can use to reduce the very high gas prices. Fracking, but that is banned. Coal for the heritage steam train lines is imported from Khazakstan rather than being mined in Wales. It's bonkers.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 5, 2022 15:45:10 GMT
I am not advocating for abandoning long term goals, but the UK seems to be going it alone in terms of the pace of change, and we are in danger of impoverishing ourselves and creating more greenhouse gases in the process.
I am buying an electric car so it's not like I have my head in the sand. But where is the sense in buying and transporting coal from 3,000 miles away, when it is available within 100 miles and the money stays in the UK? IF we are going to use coal, even in small amounts, at least use our own coal. The steel industry has a similar problem. UK Steel is so expensive because energy is expensive. It the country decided to ban the use of coal that is one thing, but if we are going to continue to use it....
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Post by Alanović on Jan 5, 2022 15:59:42 GMT
So your in favour of UK production, even if it's uneconomic (which is why the mines are closed)? So state subsidies? And you're a Tory voter? Still unsure where common sense comes in to it.
Am I missing something or did I have too much cheese over Christmas?
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