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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 13:17:54 GMT
Lot of inertia in all those cylinders I suppose. Or should that be momentum?
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 19, 2019 14:14:00 GMT
In the X1, once triggered the engine will stay off with foot on the brake (as long as it is left in D). Applying the epb without releasing the foot brake will then allow the latter to be released, engine and brake lights off. Engine restarts with the accelerator, which also releases the epb.
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Post by Rob on Nov 19, 2019 14:23:02 GMT
The Superb and A3 worked exactly like that as do the Passat/Golf I've tried with DSG. For manual VAG cars with EPB+auto hold the engine would restart when you lift the clutch back up when in gear. The A3 didn't have auto-hold but the Superb (and Passat) did.
Also you can restart the engine by very slightly pressing the accelerator without it releasing the parking break or auto-hold.
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Post by WDB on Nov 19, 2019 15:12:48 GMT
Yes, but Humph, Esp, Vić (for now) and I don’t have an EPB, just a cable, some drums and a pedal. So there’s nothing to supply the logic, “We’re not moving because the engine’s off, so no need for brake lights.” Should be that hard but Mercedes don’t do it.
The i3, of course, has no such complications.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 16:09:51 GMT
I do like the 'hold' function on my Merc. Makes life at in traffic much easier. I don't have s/s. The Clubman does but it only works if the battery is really in full charge. It (and the Captur) have a hill hold function on the brakes, but only for a couple of seconds.
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2019 16:17:58 GMT
The main problem with my Merc is that I really like it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 16:48:33 GMT
+1
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Post by dixinormus on Nov 19, 2019 19:09:32 GMT
Toyota Corollas here in NZ don’t have stop-start fitted at all. They are all petrol autos in this market. I guess that Toyota don’t trust the technology, or see the need for it? It can’t be an NZ-market only decision.
SWMBO’s 2015 Outlander diesel auto doesn’t have stop-start either, but that’s probably Mitsubishi saving a few bucks. Then again its got a TC autobox, and a full-sized spare wheel; maybe Mitsubishi don’t buy in to all this new-fangled technology either...
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 20, 2019 9:06:33 GMT
New readers start here:
.....so, in fulfilling his Civic duty, our hero, Al, has disappeared into the Winnersh Triangle, never to be seen again.........
.....or has he.....?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:10:57 GMT
Test drive complete, and it's perfectly adequate, really. Obviously to compare it to an E is grossly unfair on both, it isn't as powerful, or torquey. But it rides very well for its size, and handles far better, as you'd expect I suppose of something less bargelike. Gearchange is smooth and I tried the flappy paddles, which is a first for me. I think I might well get some use out of them.
One surprising thing, the dashboard and display layout make it feel more spacious in the driver's seat than the E, with the windscreen feeling further away. Very good seats, lots of lateral support and a very comfy driving position, there's also a rest for the right foot when on cruise. Will be nice to finally achieve DAB radio in a car, and phone connectivity is a step up from the ropey FM transmitter I had plugged in to the E's fag lighter socket.
The one downside is road noise. On the rough patches of the A33 it was really, really loud. I dread the M25 Surrey section. I can't expect it to have the refinement of an E, even a 15 year old one, but this is the only real black mark against it. It will become quite tiresome on a long journey over poor surfaces. Not a problem on French peages of course, but some UK motorways might be a chore to drive on. It would probably put me off buying the car if I were a regular travelling salesman, for example.
So all good, have made the finance application and I'm waiting to hear. I suppose that could be declined by the computer, so we'll wait and see. Shit happens.
3 and a half years PCP, at which stage we'll be dropping one private school fee, therefore I will be in a position to perhaps change it for something a bit more swishy, ceteris paribus. I'm sure that thread is eagerly anticipated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:41:58 GMT
Great.
You might find that better tyres alter the road noise. The Falkens on my E350 replaced some Continentals. False economy. They are wearing faster, much noisier and have less grip, especially now they are half worn and on road markings. Not something I noticed with the Contis.
HJ keeps on about Michelin CrossClimates. They are meant to be quieter...
Hope it all works out for you. Are you doing a national tour of the GOF Pub customers to show it off?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:46:58 GMT
Full set of brand new Bridgestone Turanzas on it, alloys were also apparently refurbed as well. Wonder how many kerbs the previous one-careful-lady-owner in Stockport had hit? Car drives perfectly straight though, I did the hands-off-the-wheel-and-see-if-it-pulls thing. It didn't.
Happy to show it to anyone passing by if it's of interest. Quite a rare car really, but quite vanilla also.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 20, 2019 11:47:40 GMT
Despite whatever the label grading says, the Turanzas (T001) on my car are far from quiet.
Early reviews of the X! noted tyre noise, so I was ready for it. It is acceptable, but about the only thing that lets the car down. It is noticeably a much nicer car to drive on very good surfaces.
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Post by Humph on Nov 20, 2019 12:36:20 GMT
Tyres can make a big difference. The winters I have on at the mo are much more audible than the summer ones.
Glad you liked it. Hope it serves you well.
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Post by Avant on Nov 20, 2019 15:49:34 GMT
Bridgestones seem to be notoriously noisy: I'd never choose them but Audi insist on putting them on as originals. But they wear well: there's still over 4 mm on all four on the Q2 after 23,000 miles. I'm looking forward to putting on some all-season tyres before the worst of the winter, either Vredestein Quatrac or Michelin Cross-climate. The latter cost about twice as much as the former and are reputed not to be great in snow, so unless there's any other good reason to prefer Michelin, it'll probably be Vredestein.
Good luck with the finance application Al - if your overall credit score is good you should be OK. The Civic does sound just right - easier on the eye too than the rather dumpy Civic hatch.
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