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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 9:53:07 GMT
The Enyaq has had good reviews and I'm getting slowly tempted to change. What's the Hyundai Ionic 5 like? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 9:53:46 GMT
This is funny, laughing at MG for putting roof bars on a car that can or can't be used but no one laughs at indicators on a BMW or Audi.  |
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Post by WDB on May 28, 2021 9:56:00 GMT
Don’t they? Must have been imagining all those times I’ve heard it in my six years as a BMW driver. 😛
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Post by EspadaIII on May 28, 2021 10:37:52 GMT
The Ionic 5 review makes it seem like the obvious EV at the moment. I am put off the VW ID series by the non-illuminated touch a/c controls and reports of the Nav screen freezing.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 28, 2021 11:06:33 GMT
I have been thinking - always dangerous...
If we really really need to reduce emissions of all kinds urgently, then we need to stop producing them, whilst at the same time permitting the economy to function fairly normally. This means reducing travel and the emissions associated with travel.
As we are soon to be forced to buy only EV cars, surely we should also be frowning upon new cars which use unnecesary amounts of energy. Therefore as ICE cars are phased out and EV cars phased in surely we should be saying that there are maximum levels of energy use. If you are going to buy a Porsche or Audi EV which is very fast but uses more energy than a current 1.0 ICE car without providing much more space or utility, they should also be banned from sale.... There is also the emissions released from producing the energy needed for an EV including the systems which produce the energy.
I'm not wearing a hair shirt here. But if we really want to 'save the planet and the economy' we need to ensure that those who can afford more expensive items 'suffer' in the same way that less affluent people do, in terms of the energy use. Maybe each person should have a limit on energy use per day with no capacity to increase it other than by buying it off those who don't need their full quota. This may balance the economic differences between the wealth classes.
Also taxation should be altered so that the amount of commuting to work is reduced to a minimum - this will require structural changes to the housing market and the removal of SDLT.
Told you I can be dangerous when thinking...
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Post by WDB on May 28, 2021 11:23:48 GMT
The Ioniq 5 does look impressive. 3m of wheelbase almost equals the 6GT, which bodes well for legroom. Less thrilled with the interior design, but that’s harder to judge from photos so I’ll wait and see on that one.
And, to pick up Esp’s point, not all EVs are equally efficient. The iPace is a fantastic drive but requires nearly twice as much energy per unit distance as an i3, mainly because it weighs much more. (Although it will also carry more people in comfort.) But that is still less energy than any fossil car requires for the same distance, and that energy can come from a zero-carbon source, which again is not something any fossil car can claim.
But yes, less travel, less stuff, and higher taxes for those who insist on taking more than their share.
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Post by Humph on May 28, 2021 11:33:25 GMT
I'm quite glad I'm old. It doesn't look like it's going to be much fun.
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Post by Humph on May 28, 2021 12:11:53 GMT
An EV wouldn't work for my brummie pal. He has to be in the city regularly and needs to move stock in and out so needs an estate. But, he also needs a car that can cope with regular and random long journeys. Budget was/is tight as his business has been devastated by Covid, the Volvo isn't a new one, in fact it had over 100,000 miles on it when he bought it. Cash flow is so restricted for him right now that he'd not be comfortable with a regular monthly payment. Staff to pay, stock to finance and business property rent/rates to pay first. And, like a few of us, when holidays are possible, he likes to take the car to the south of France.
Couple all of that with two kids, both with disabilities, and at far away universities and it's just not viable for him to be running a car that costs much. Even the additional fuel costs of the petrol Volvo are a bit of a burden to him right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:44:35 GMT
The Ioniq 5 does look impressive. 3m of wheelbase almost equals the 6GT, which bodes well for legroom. Less thrilled with the interior design, but that’s harder to judge from photos so I’ll wait and see on that one. And, to pick up Esp’s point, not all EVs are equally efficient. The iPace is a fantastic drive but requires nearly twice as much energy per unit distance as an i3, mainly because it weighs much more. (Although it will also carry more people in comfort.) But that is still less energy than any fossil car requires for the same distance, and that energy can come from a zero-carbon source, which again is not something any fossil car can claim. But yes, less travel, less stuff, and higher taxes for those who insist on taking more than their share. Almost as if SUVs are a bad idea, even for EVs....  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:45:27 GMT
An EV wouldn't work for my brummie pal. He has to be in the city regularly and needs to move stock in and out so needs an estate. But, he also needs a car that can cope with regular and random long journeys. Budget was/is tight as his business has been devastated by Covid, the Volvo isn't a new one, in fact it had over 100,000 miles on it when he bought it. Cash flow is so restricted for him right now that he'd not be comfortable with a regular monthly payment. Staff to pay, stock to finance and business property rent/rates to pay first. And, like a few of us, when holidays are possible, he likes to take the car to the south of France. Couple all of that with two kids, both with disabilities, and at far away universities and it's just not viable for him to be running a car that costs much. Even the additional fuel costs of the petrol Volvo are a bit of a burden to him right now. Okily dokily. I hope things turn round for him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:46:37 GMT
I'm quite glad I'm old. It doesn't look like it's going to be much fun. One day, Humph, you'll drive an EV and wonder what the hell you were ever worried about. |
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Post by bpg on May 28, 2021 15:40:59 GMT
...When he has retired and has no need to get to Milan in a day with one or two stops, a bootful of kit. Oh, and a roof box. 😁
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Post by Humph on May 28, 2021 15:47:45 GMT
Fazackerly.
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Post by WDB on May 28, 2021 15:49:32 GMT
Part of Humph’s retrospective amazement will be that he ever considered that a sane thing to do. 🤓
Incidentally, has anyone looked into the implications for people travelling with expensive merchandise like Humph’s out of and into Global Britain?
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Post by Humph on May 28, 2021 15:55:41 GMT
Very good point that.
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