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Post by WDB on Dec 18, 2020 7:54:52 GMT
Strange to watch the cricket recently from Sydney and Adelaide and see people sitting close together in the stands.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 9:13:39 GMT
Just like Humph, my elderly Mother had a nasty flu/virus that lingered for weeks in Nov/Dec last year. Makes you wonder. Number of cases seems to be on the rise now: new lockdowns in European countries, record cases in the US, and even a new outbreak in Sydney today. People are fleeing Sydney tonight in fear of an imminent lockdown; that won’t help matters. One concern about vaccinations: there’s a theory that the vaccine won’t stop the recipients from continuing to transmit the disease? In which case it’s still lockdowns ad infinitum until we’re all vaccinated? No, because the vaccine will have eliminated the deaths and hospitalisations caused by the virus, to a level which will be negligible. Some measures may stay in place but full lockdowns will become a thing of the past. Also, there are many vaccines. The Moderna one, approved by the FDA yesterday, is thought to prevent transmission so may become the dominant one if that's proven to be the case. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 9:14:45 GMT
Strange to watch the cricket recently from Sydney and Adelaide and see people sitting close together in the stands. Could have been us if we'd locked down and quarantined arrivals properly, at the right time. |
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 18, 2020 9:56:35 GMT
I think unlikely. We are far more densely populated in many more cities. I don't think any where in Australia or NZ have rows and rows of terrced houses, occupied by very large multi-generational families, with low incomes, poorly educated, whose first language is not English. The Northern mass outbreak in the spring was always going to be replicated in London eventually. We were never going to get full football stadia untl mass vaccination. I just wish that the outdoor nature of stadia would permit say 10% occupancy and get some spirit back into the game.
By contrast, there is one case in Aus and they go mental....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 10:09:26 GMT
I see. We have 60,000 deaths because Muslims? Plenty of cities in Australia have densely populated apartment living. They also have poor people and brown people.
Your final comment though is exactly the point I was making. We should have "gone mental" on the virus. From the outset. It wasn't introduced to the country by families in Bradford, and we should have stopped it before it got there, or anywhere else.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 18, 2020 11:50:19 GMT
Not only Muslims; plenty of orthodox Jews as well. Conversation only a month ago. Young extremely observant Jewish mother walks into a shop. Her first language is Yiddish and despite being born in Manchester, English is very much her second language. She asks ".. why is everyone wearing a mask?.." Heard verbatim by Espadrille. You can't go mental with these people. They don't understand and will not listen to the authorities; the only authority they accept is their rabbi and their rabbi has his head in the sand because he is of the same ilk, and he takes his advice from other rabbis of the same ilk and it goes on and on. Other religions are available to make similar comments about.
Islam and Judaism are not like Christianity. They don't have one overarching leader to whom they listen aand accept; everyone has 'their rabbi/imam' and once you find one who you think is right for you, you accept everything he says; even if he is totally wrong.
So Ozzies go mental because they are not socially distancing. If people socially distance they will not get Covid, even if the person near them has it.
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 18, 2020 12:50:46 GMT
...made me laugh!
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Post by Rob on Dec 18, 2020 17:47:25 GMT
Brilliant :-)
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Post by WDB on Dec 19, 2020 8:34:00 GMT
Getting worked up by Gruinaud non-news is not good for your health WDB. That advice was given by the joint committee and fully backed by the BMA. ...but not by NHS Trust execs. One chief executive said: “Frontline NHS staff should absolutely have been in the first wave [of priority groups] for the added protection this would give to them and, crucially, their patients. There is a growing sense of frustration among staff who feel let down and now a sense of inequity because of the way it’s being distributed.”
Another said: “There is growing disquiet in the NHS about how we have ended up prioritising people at the end of their lives for the vaccine over and above the NHS workers who are actually trying to care for them. It’s very, very odd.”We’ve always been told that protecting the NHS from collapse is the main reason for the restrictions. Vaccinating the staff would maintain capacity through what’s likely to be the busiest time. The over-80s can be shielded; hospital workers cannot. |
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 19, 2020 18:59:54 GMT
Just discovered that an acquaintance has had the vaccine. His mother is in an old age home with dementia. He tries to visit daily as it is around the corner from him home. The manageress said that as he was in so often, she would put him down for the vaccine  Talk about jumping the queue; I know that in January having had the vaccine he will be off the slopes for a week. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 11:49:36 GMT
I very much doubt he'll be going anywhere, vaccine or no.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 21, 2020 12:05:11 GMT
Yup - new strain will keep him at home.... Now how do you spell schadenfreude?
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Post by WDB on Dec 21, 2020 12:06:00 GMT
Capital S. It's a German noun.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 21, 2020 12:09:40 GMT
There's always one.....
It's usually me....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 10:36:39 GMT
Getting worked up by Gruinaud non-news is not good for your health WDB. That advice was given by the joint committee and fully backed by the BMA. ...but not by NHS Trust execs. One chief executive said: “Frontline NHS staff should absolutely have been in the first wave [of priority groups] for the added protection this would give to them and, crucially, their patients. There is a growing sense of frustration among staff who feel let down and now a sense of inequity because of the way it’s being distributed.”
Another said: “There is growing disquiet in the NHS about how we have ended up prioritising people at the end of their lives for the vaccine over and above the NHS workers who are actually trying to care for them. It’s very, very odd.”We’ve always been told that protecting the NHS from collapse is the main reason for the restrictions. Vaccinating the staff would maintain capacity through what’s likely to be the busiest time. The over-80s can be shielded; hospital workers cannot. Would these be the same Trust execs who are now drawing flak from their own frontline staff for vaccinating Admin staff before them? |
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Talk about jumping the queue; I know that in January having had the vaccine he will be off the slopes for a week.