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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 13, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
Driving down the M6 today we passed a Lamborghini Urus towing a horse trailer with two horses inside. I am uncomfortable with this...
On the one hand Ferruccio Lamborghini created his first cars as GT cruisers and it was only some out of hours messing around in the workshop that created the Miura. He was known to be unhappy with the concept until he saw the response when it was unveiled at the 1966 Geneva Motor Show. So you could say he would be in favour of the modern version of the continental cruiser.
But somehow seeing one pulling a horse box fills me with sadness. No longer the manufacturer of stunning designs, not needing go faster stripes to look fast, but just another me too product, effectively a Bentayga or Q8 underneath.
Mind you I was even more saddened to see. Cullinan overtake me today. Messrs Rolls and Royce must turning in their graves.... What an ugly beast.
Conspicuous consumption by the yard. At least a Urus looks like Lamborghini SUV.
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 7:26:24 GMT
I suppose it's a reaction to what the "market" wants, or is being influenced to believe it wants. In an age when a low slung super car is only really fit for purpose on a track, maybe it's more about premiumising comfort and hinting at "lifestyle". I share some of your dismay of course, coming from a generation that loved sports cars, but there are many examples of how tastes, or more accurately, trends, have changed and will, no doubt, continue to.
When you think back to some of the interior decorating and house trimming choices that were made in the '60s and '70s, you can see how peer pressure can easily override taste. Even now though, every house seems to being painted battleship grey, with grey windows, fences, doors etc. How sad it will all look for a while until people tire of it.
Mirroring, I think it's called. People can be convinced, or convince themselves, that they are being edgy, modern and "different" while inexorably following exactly the same trends as each other. Hence the current prevalence of vehicles that look as if they are intended to compete in desert rallies, when in fact they are used for visiting the supermarket.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 14, 2020 9:18:57 GMT
So we buck the trend by driving estate cars instead of SUVs. We are all individuals....
I'll go along with that 😉
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 9:24:09 GMT
Well, you/we could tie ourselves in knots with self analysis I suppose, but when I reflect on it, I think that I drive the sort of car I need, which happily, is also the sort of car I want. While my life follows its current pattern, it's replacement if required, will be a large estate car of some kind.
I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 11:31:04 GMT
Old money doesn't buy expensive sports cars and the market for premium sports cars is pretty limited so they need to broaden the offerings.
I know Lamborghini is part of the VAG group. How many ID.3 and e-Up! do they have to sell for every Urus ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 11:39:29 GMT
Old money doesn't buy expensive sports cars Yeah never seen Charles Windsor in an Aston... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 11:56:52 GMT
He didn't buy it, it was a 21st birthday present. Not the same as going in and opening your own cheque book or getting your own plastic card out.
He's probably got a Volvo 740GL for moving around Highgrove.
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 12:03:02 GMT
Not that long ago, or maybe it was, but it feels like fairly recently, when I saw a photo of the Queen driving a green Jag X-Type estate. Can't remember when they stopped making those, but it's a fair while back.
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 12:05:53 GMT
Guy I know has a newish Lamborghini, but doesn't drive it much because he wants to "keep the miles down". Sort of negates the point of having it to me. But of course, it takes all sorts.
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 12:12:38 GMT
I've mentioned him before, but a chap I know, who could afford several Lamborghinis, if not the whole company, chooses to drive around mostly in his old diesel Golf.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 12:19:30 GMT
He didn't buy it, it was a 21st birthday present. Not the same as going in and opening your own cheque book or getting your own plastic card out. He's probably got a Volvo 740GL for moving around Highgrove. Did somebody "new money" buy it for him? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 12:41:59 GMT
Yeah, focus on the one car sold over 50 years ago. How long would sales to the Windsor family keep the company going for ? Do you think the Queen got a discount ? Do you think she paid for it or, did it come as recognition of a Royal Warrant ? We should also include sales to MI5 for James Bond.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 13:09:10 GMT
I'm not focusing on anything. I'm just saying that people who want expensive sports cars buy expensive sports cars, however old their money is.
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Post by Humph on Sept 14, 2020 13:37:08 GMT
When I become rich, I shall buy an E53 estate and take the badges off.
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Post by Avant on Sept 14, 2020 15:16:33 GMT
I don't personally feel uncomfortable about a Urus towing a horsebox. No doubt Lamborghini, like Porsche, need to make and sell SUVs to stay profitable. I seem to remember people calling the Cayenne a travesty when it first came out: but this and the Macan sell in far greater numbers than the sports cars. We can be thankful for that, so that the funds are there to keep improving the sports cars.
I suppose one could argue that VAG could have all the SUVs made under the VW / Audi / Skoda badges: but no doubt they could see that there would be enough people out there to want an SUV with a Porsche or Lamborghini badge.
I'm happy to drive an Audi van.... well, not really, but it's convenient for me to have it in van formation most of the time.
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