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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 9:05:59 GMT
I've a few people you can insult for me. I'm usually pretty good at it myself, but happy to pay someone else to get a bit of free time back.
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 9:24:07 GMT
I get fairly regular contacts, mainly from overseas brands with no tangible UK activity, who are looking for someone to guide them into the UK market and who has the right contacts. I can't help them at present due to my employed status, but in due course, it seems like a route. Sort of thing I used to do anyway.
Or, I'll just buy the straw hat, the fishing rod, the hammock and the Duster and follow the sun I guess... 😉
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 27, 2019 9:35:24 GMT
66 for me. But, I suspect I'll carry on a bit longer health permitting. Not necessarily in employment, but I may do my own thing again on a part time basis. Insultancy contracts etc. There's always someone wants something doing. I negotiated my way out at 56, with a number of occupational pensions due from 60 and after, and state pension from 65. I had immediate offers from a number of sources of (very) lucrative consultancy work. (I could have matched my previous 'adequate' income with less than three month's work a year, albeit away from home, but largely UK-based). I took a short break to decide, and then rapidly came to the conclusion that was going to be the end of my working-life. The main contributory factors are, of course, mindset and financial stability. My long-term planning had always been to retire at 60, and the finances were always going to allow. Negotiating my exit gave me (just) enough to tide over the extra 3+ years with little downside. I've said before, I've enjoyed the vast majority of my career, but it had been "pressured" for a long time, and a change of management made the last couple of years less than enjoyable. So, almost 12 years on, was finishing entirely the correct decision? Absolutely! Re the " health permitting" bit. Life will catch up at some time. Best not spend the last bit of good health still working if there are options not to do so. There is a world of enjoyment out there. My ex-works colleague, who I regularly walk with, made noises long before I left about retiring early (but noises were all). After my retirement, he suffered a nasty TIA from out of nowhere, was off work for some time, and I recall a conversation at the time which went along the lines of "If that had been "it", would I have been happy to look back and see that I'd spent my last few years on this earth still at work (which admittedly he was enjoying at the time)?" Not long after, and despite wondering what he would do with his time, he negotiated his way out. His wife still works; he's financially stable, but not as much as me; he has filled all his spare time, and though he misses the companionship of work, he couldn't find a spare minute to even do small consultancy jobs. (and he's had a couple of additional, unrelated, health scares since). Don't fritter away your good health on working if you can make the alternative work......
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 10:42:06 GMT
That seems like really good advice T&E. But, for various reasons I don't feel quite ready yet to stop completely. Not least is the factor of my son still being at uni and the associated costs, but he'll be finished in a year and a half so maybe that's a good point to re-assess.
The nature of what I do is mostly enjoyable though, the fashion industry is tough, particularly so at the moment, but also fairly exciting most of the time, and so far I still get a bit of a buzz from it most days. I feel in some ways it keeps me younger. I get the chance to travel a lot, not just to mundane places but also to some interesting ones too. I guess when the time comes that I'm only doing it for the money, then the writing will be on the wall so to speak. Of course that decision may be made for me, either due to commercial reasons or indeed, as you rightly allude to, some personal / physical factors.
I guess it'll all become clear eventually.
Anyway, thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, it may seem like just random chatter sometimes on these forums, but just occasionally they really do help me to unscramble my thoughts.
We really should get onto winter tyres soon, it feels like we're not embracing the season if we don't !
Thanks again! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 11:01:23 GMT
I hate work. The sooner I can jack it in, the better. Too late for me to now "find something you love doing" or "you'll never have to work a day if you're doing something you love" bollocks. I always had to just take whatever work I could, based on my qualifications and experiences, in order to just stay afloat. Never had the time or energy or resources to rethink, retrain, start at the bottom again, whatever. I'm now getting quite impatient and irritable at work because it's just so much pointless toss, and so much bloody empire building and politics from the career-obsessed around me. The corporate environment is just so inhuman, and brings out the worst in people IMHO.
Balls to it all. In the bin with it, asap. I've never found a second's excitement or pleasure in it. I work to live. That's all it is to me.
Stick that on the CV, eh?
Also, winter tyres south of Derby? Balls.
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 11:04:52 GMT
What do you do Al? Maybe we can "insult" you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 11:25:54 GMT
Winter tyre salesman.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 27, 2019 11:31:41 GMT
That seems like really good advice T&E. But, for various reasons I don't feel quite ready yet to stop completely. Not least is the factor of my son still being at uni and the associated costs, but he'll be finished in a year and a half so maybe that's a good point to re-assess. As I said, mindset and finance are key to the decision. Not all people are equal. The wife of the friend I mentioned is younger than him, and despite the fact that they could enjoy some free time together (both very active cyclists), she really enjoys her job and is not yet ready to leave. I get that. I actively really enjoyed the majority of my working life, passively enjoyed most of the rest, a small amount was "meh!" and an even smaller amount sh1tty. It was so at the end, which is what eventually "threw the switch". In retrospect, that did me a big favour, though the nature of leaving left a bit of a sour taste.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 27, 2019 11:32:41 GMT
...what discount could you do me on a set of Crossclimates?........
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 11:46:50 GMT
Niche market you'd think ! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 11:49:34 GMT
Niche market you'd think ! 😉 The real answer is IT PM. It's the best paying thing I found off the back of my original educational qualifications and subsequent work experience. The educational quals now count for nothing, however.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 27, 2019 11:57:02 GMT
The real answer is IT PM. ...winter tyre sales only a morning job, then....
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 12:11:11 GMT
I suppose most people who live near the M4 have a high chance of being in some way connected to IT based employers. I can still only use a keyboard with my two index fingers and my thumbs, then only with the tip of my tongue hanging out of the corner off my mouth. Still have no idea what most of the keys do. Those F buttons for example, who ever uses those? What are they anyway, some increasing scale of swear buttons? Like F1 is just a mild curse up to F12 which is a full on sweary? 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 12:14:30 GMT
No need to understand computers to work as a PM in IT. I haven't got a clue.
I could work as a PM in pretty much any industry, but there aren't any others around here as you point out, and the wife and kids don't want to move, otherwise I'd be off to Luxembourg. Also the wife works properly in IT (she's got a Masters in Computer Science), and earns twice my wage, so we have to stay near her employment opportunities.
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2019 12:23:18 GMT
My wife works for a team investigating banking fraud. Clever girl. When she's on a keyboard it sounds like Michael Flatley.
But she still hasn't worked out how much my bikes are worth...😈
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