Rob
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Post by Rob on Dec 20, 2019 1:39:05 GMT
My plan was to move to Greece before Brexit - we'll have to see what I need to do to make that possible now. The UK has made us even more determined to make this possible.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 10:24:05 GMT
I don't think you'll make it by Brexit, 31st Jan 2020, Rob. Is it possible by the end of "transition" though, December 2020? If all the negotiations go tits up in the next 12 months, we've got No Deal at the end of the year, and our right to stay in any EU country for more than 3 months at a time will be gone.
Obviously, activating this risk was part of the "best option available to us" last week...
The EU Withdrawal Bill has been published. 3 big changes from the last one:
MPs right to vote/veto over any extension: Gone Parliamentary role in scrutinising future relationship with EU: Gone Employment Rights protection: Gone.
Again, obviously the best available option to us.
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Post by WDB on Dec 20, 2019 11:11:00 GMT
Temporary move to Northern Ireland. Won’t be more than five years before enough are in favour of activating the ‘border poll’ provision in the Belfast Agreement. That will yield a majority in favour of uniting with the Republic, bringing with it Irish citizenship for all. From there you can go anywhere, Greece included.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 13:10:31 GMT
I see that nobody who ever criticised Brexit was considered for the role of Governor of the Bank Of England to replace Mark Carney. And a Brexit believer has been appointed.
Best available option, no doubt. Thank God for the wiser heads around us, like Mark Francois for example, amongst others. We're all supplicant at the feet of these Great Geniuses now. Hail the Best Available Option. Faith and Belief will get us there, they were right all along.
"People's Vote" being closed down. "Change UK" being wound up. Opposition in any meaningful sense is gone, scrutiny and accountability wiped out. All for The Best, of course. And all on a mandate which could only have been provided by an FPTP electoral system, given the percentages of vote for each party. We truly are blessed.
All the best people have won. What could possibly go wrong, and who could possibly complain. Mark Francois (Genius, All Hail) wishing his former Conservative MP colleagues a "Happy and silent retirement" today.
The healing has truly begun.
The Good Will Out:
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 13:42:27 GMT
BTW, saw the Embrace lads (Northerners, you can't have everything, but not Tories or Leavers at least) in concert a couple of times recently. Highly recommended and up there with The Mighty Shed Seven (also Northerners, same caveats apply).
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 14:38:23 GMT
Reading today that Brussels are re-calibrating expectations regarding our trade deal, in line with a minor partnership rather than a deeper partnership like the Canada agreement. I expect they know that's the best we can achieve in a year.
Obviously, this was the best we could have hoped for. Nothing better was possible. And it's obviously going to be All Their Fault.
Super. What a Great Leap Forward.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 14:40:56 GMT
The Withdrawal Agreement Bill has now passed Second Reading. Majority 124.
Thanks everyone for voting Tory, where would we be without you. I am utterly chastened at my foolish belief that things could have turned out better.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 20, 2019 15:05:41 GMT
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Rob
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Post by Rob on Dec 20, 2019 15:32:31 GMT
You're right Al - need to look into options about getting to Greece before the end of the transition period. In fact I emailed a government department last night (a Greek one that is)... I'm in Athens at the end of January so perhaps I can pop to speak to someone :-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:15:08 GMT
I don't know anything about buying property in Greece, Rob. Having bought a house in Germany it was roughly 6 months between seeing a place we finally wanted and moving in. We spent 6 years looking for the right place. Negotiations are interesting, we made an offer, they declined - naturally, we hired a valuer who made an offer the same as mine which was accepted. Had to pay him 25% of the amount saved.
We had the choice of hiring an English speaking Notar or going with a local. Then there is the contract reading. The Notar sits down with both parties and reads every single word on every single page. Think death by Powerpoint in the straight after lunch session.
You'll need to look into healthcare and pension transfer too if you have not already started. I wouldn't know where to start with the pension and whether to leave it in GBP or shift to a EUR location.
Good Luck !
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Post by Humph on Dec 20, 2019 16:25:50 GMT
"Death by PowerPoint"
Very good ! I've passed through organisations like that. Places where they don't actually seem to do anything really except have "meetings" with flip charts and PowerPoint presentations.
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Post by WDB on Dec 20, 2019 16:28:55 GMT
"Death by PowerPoint" Very good ! You’re not actually crediting BPG with coining that phrase, are you, Humph? 🤔 If so, you really do spend too much time in that car.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:29:34 GMT
In the past it's been training sessions where instead of getting you doing something and getting the blood circulating after lunch, they sit you down and drone on.
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Post by Humph on Dec 20, 2019 16:30:26 GMT
Or not enough time in "meetings" perhaps?
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Post by Humph on Dec 20, 2019 16:32:49 GMT
I have a commercial reputation as a benevolent dictator. Screw meetings. Do it my way and we'll all be happy little soldiers, savvy? 😎
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