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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:50:34 GMT
Yes I agree with you all. The KIA is a far better choice. Altjhough it is a bit insurancey.
The lad wants the Toyota though. I'm holding out a bit in the hope that it'll be sold soon but it's not shifting. 17th birthday next Friday. It's kind of the birthday present so the nettle may be grasped this week...
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 9:35:53 GMT
Nice!
I got the Aygo for my son’s 17th birthday.
We went to see it and buy it a few days before, and collected it on his birthday. Had his first lesson that morning too.
12 weeks later he passed his test in it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 9:42:56 GMT
Wow, 12 weeks was quick. I'm not expecting him to have a test before the summer. If I bite the bullet I'll leave it to collect until 1st December, not paying for November's VED if I don't have to...
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 9:48:22 GMT
He was really keen to get his licence, of course it was easier to get test dates then. He had three two hour sessions with a driving instructor to grasp the basics, but then, after that, it was just a case of him driving it everywhere, every day with one of us supervising.
And at £20 a year VED I wasn’t too bothered !
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 22, 2021 12:32:16 GMT
Just realised that our Punto is five days older than my daughter.
Second driving session with Dad yesterday. Better than last week. She has now had about five hours with an instructor and I think progress is being made, but she is nowhere near ready for a test.
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 12:50:27 GMT
Everyone is different of course, and you’ve been through this twice already with your older children, so I’m hesitant to advise anything really. But, my/our theory was that to get good at something quickly, you pretty much have to do it every day.
Fortunately he and we had the willingness/enthusiasm and time opportunities to make that possible.
He didn’t particularly enjoy the formal lessons at the very start, but I thought it was important to get those first few miles with a professional instructor in a car with dual controls.
In the end, it all just sort of morphed into a new lifestyle for him where using his car was just part of his normal daily routine.
I learned in much the same way, half a dozen BSM lessons and then just loads of practice in my dad’s car.
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Post by EspadaIII on Nov 22, 2021 14:34:05 GMT
Regretfully she is a busy girl with lots of informal activities and a fiarly long school day all no more than a ten minute walk away from home. So not much opportunity for car use. I suppose I need to brush up on the latest pass (or fail) points. When I learnt to drive, at a stop sign or red light, it was Handbrake on, into neutral and all feet away from pedals. Also we used the gears to slow down arriving at a stop in second.
Now it seems that they go into first before they reach a full stop and remain in gear with the clutch down until they go again??? Really?? Should i speaking to the instructor?
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Post by WDB on Nov 22, 2021 14:37:50 GMT
Slowing down through the gears is simply wrong in a synchromesh-equipped car. And I was taught to find first before stopping way back in 1988.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 14:42:31 GMT
That's odd. I was taught down through the gears, come to a stop in second, handbrake on gear lever to neutral, in 1987.
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 14:42:58 GMT
I have to really concentrate to not double declutch on the way down a manual box. My wife sees it as ostentatious.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 14:43:57 GMT
Austin Seven, maybe.
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 14:44:56 GMT
Yeah, I slow down on the gears too. I’m sure that’s seen as wrong now but I’m not about to start caring. 😎
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Post by bpg on Nov 22, 2021 15:50:40 GMT
I took my test in '86, down through the gears, handbrake on and in to neutral. If you sat with the car in gear riding the clutch, my Dad would have told you in no uncertain terms how much a clutch and release bearings cost and who would be footing the bill.
I was taught to use the gears to slow the car on long descents where the footbrake is your backup. Cook the brakes and you have no backup.
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Post by Humph on Nov 22, 2021 16:36:37 GMT
My (automatic) Merc had its first set of front discs and pads at 96,000 miles. Those are still ok at 160,000, but I guess they’ll need to be changed soonish.
I tend not to use the brakes all that much when just bowling along, preferring instead to just lift off the accelerator to reduce speed if required, and only brake as I come to a halt.
No hard and fast rules applied of course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 8:50:18 GMT
You'll adapt to EV driving beautifully with that technique.
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