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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 18:05:42 GMT
..American cars, which as we all know are shit in every department. Small Block Chevy.
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Post by Hofmeister on Feb 28, 2017 18:33:44 GMT
..American cars, which as we all know are shit in every department. Small Block Chevy. I note you conveniently chopped out "mass market" from the front of that quote.
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Post by Rob on Feb 28, 2017 18:37:28 GMT
If you expect decent crash protection, don't get the Ford Mustang either. They removed safety features for the European cars.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:19:13 GMT
I note you conveniently chopped out "mass market" from the front of that quote. If I hadn't I would have been forced to agree with you.
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Post by Rob on Feb 28, 2017 19:33:06 GMT
What about the Holden's - those with a V8 look fun. I know it's the Chevrolet engine. And what a crap name Chevrolet is.
Reminds me of that excellent Vauxhall Shove-it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:36:31 GMT
If you expect decent crash protection, don't get the Ford Mustang either. They removed safety features for the European cars. I didn't know that. What did they remove? Had a free day on Sunday so went to Turin. About a dozen flashy cars were being driven around and parked in the piazzas for a charity event. Despite the Ferraris, Teslas and other exotica, the centre of attention was a bright yellow new model mustang.
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Post by Hofmeister on Feb 28, 2017 19:49:35 GMT
What about the Holden's - those with a V8 look fun. I know it's the Chevrolet engine. And what a crap name Chevrolet is. Reminds me of that excellent Vauxhall Shove-it. You think Vauxhall/Opel are crap, I can assure you that mainstream Holdens make them look appealing and desirable. Ok the V8 Monaro is an exception, but then its not mainstream.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 20:18:50 GMT
What about the Holden's - those with a V8 look fun. I know it's the Chevrolet engine. And what a crap name Chevrolet is. Reminds me of that excellent Vauxhall Shove-it. I suspect that Louis Chevrolet might have something to say about that remark if he were still alive.
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Post by lygonos on Mar 1, 2017 10:53:26 GMT
Until someone finds a way of charging EVs in the same time that it takes to fill a car's petrol or diesel tank - or alternatively the price of plug-in hybrids is reduced to a sensible level - these cars will always be niche products.
Prototype at this time, but capable of up to 350kW charging which would fill a Leaf in under 5 minutes (and probably make it burst into flames).
speakev.com/threads/first-350-kw-capable-station-installed-around-the-corner-from-tesla.33569/
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Post by Rob on Mar 1, 2017 13:40:11 GMT
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Post by WDB on Mar 1, 2017 17:30:19 GMT
Good grief! I can see the Mustang returning rapidly to obscurity in Europe after that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 0:15:55 GMT
The concept of the swappable battery as developed by Better Place was pioneered in Israel and Australia. It failed, not because it didn't work but it was about five years too early. The recent concerns over particulates would have had many people running to a car where you didn't worry about range because there would be battery swap stations as frequently as petrol stations, and the cars could be charged up as well.
I wonder if the concept will be relaunched?
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Post by Rob on Mar 5, 2017 1:46:13 GMT
Define battery. How many 'cells' do you think is in a typical Tesla Model S? The number might surprise you. The size of each 'battery' might too.
But I understand their approach.
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Post by lygonos on Mar 5, 2017 9:23:27 GMT
Define battery. How many 'cells' do you think is in a typical Tesla Model S? The number might surprise you. The size of each 'battery' might too. The battery is the entire storage unit (eg your 12v 'battery' is 6 cells in series). Tesla use 7000+ small cells in series and parallel to get 1200+A current (for Ludicrous mode) at 300-400 volts or so. The entire pack is a sealed unit about the size of an 8'x4' plywood sheet and is liquid cooled. The LEAF on the other hand has a battery made up of 50ish individual packs, each like a telephone directory, bolted together into a chunkier unit with no active cooling (hence its suscepitibility to premature failure in very hot climates like Arizona). In theory the LEAF unit can be dissassembled and faulty packs switched for good ones, while the Tesla one would be a major pain in the arse. Conversely, the Tesla battery can be dropped out and changed in minutes, while the LEAF on is more difficult. Ultimately, however, battery swap-out is increasingly dead-in-the-water as EVs become capable of recharging in 20-30 minutes, avoiding the logistical headache of storing lots of batteries and not having 'ownership' of your car's battery which was a big turn-off for many Zoe/LEAF owners initially.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:39:33 GMT
New discovery with the hybrid today, the 12v socket in the boot (and the rest of the car) can't power a Volvo tyre compressor. Backed my wife's car up to the garage to power the compressor to blow up my bike tyres today. Nope, no power, then tried the socket for the rear seat passengers and the one in the front. None of them worked, tried ignition on, engine running, nothing worked. I was starting to think the compressor was goosed. Plugged into the permanent live socket in the boot of my S60 worked straight away.
I'm starting to think if a hybrid or electric car fits all your motoring needs them an e-bike might fit the bill for everybody else there are cars that have been around for decades.
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