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Post by WDB on Nov 20, 2017 16:44:49 GMT
I would suggest that subjective reviews of tyres, even those by journalists, are worth approximately nothing. Unless the difference is measurable (e.g. stopping distance in a controlled trial) or qualitative (such as the way Michelin Primacys eliminated the squirming and tramlining that afflicted my S60 on Pirelli P6000s) then it's all a bit 'woooo'. I doubt HJ has measured interior noise levels, and you can't measure ride quality at all.
I've been entirely happy with my CrossClimates, and would choose them for the CLS too if I could get them big enough. I don't rag the E round corners, but I occasionally take one too fast and the grip has always been there. If there's a difference in ride quality or noise from the Primacy 3s that preceded them, I can't detect it (and your E doesn't depend on its tyres for these qualities any more than mine does.) And I haven't worn them out yet, although they're probably only 10,000 miles old.
My point is that they do they job just fine. They offer low-temperature grip (although I can't vouch personally for this) without compromising their performance at normal temperatures. I'm not sure what else anybody can tell you. 🤓
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 19:41:09 GMT
Fair enough. Where we live, even in the Noooorth, winters have not been particularly severe these last couple of years. The need for winter tyres; i.e. specially for sub 7oC temperatures is getting reduced year on year and I will cope for the occasional couple of days when it remains below 7oC all day. Today it was 17oC in Chester which is only 40 miles from where I was in Manchester. Therefore I think I'll go with the Primacy 3.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 20:21:31 GMT
As WDB says unless someone has the same car as you then a tyre recommendation from a different car is nothing more than a recommendation for that tyre on that different car.
The P6000 tyre mentioned was truly awful on the P2 model Volvos WDB and I both owned however I previously had that tyre on a Peugeot 206 and it was fine.
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Post by dixinormus on Nov 21, 2017 7:39:17 GMT
The problem with choosing tyres these days IMHO is the huge range of brands and alternatives out there. (I am sure that there were only a handful of suppliers in most tyre shops 30 years ago..?!)
I end up shopping on price to some extent. 220 quid/corner for Bridgestones for the A1? Hmmm, what can I get for 150, that seems more reasonable, or that's my expectation of what I should need to pay...
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Post by WDB on Nov 21, 2017 7:56:30 GMT
£220? I can get a Continental for the CLS for that!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 9:19:49 GMT
For an A1 why would you pay more than £100? Are the tyres so large??
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Post by dixinormus on Nov 21, 2017 9:52:30 GMT
17 inch wheels, low profil-ish: 215/40 R17s...? This is New Zealand, we pay through the nose for some imported goods it seems  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 10:00:30 GMT
The UK does have lower prices than most places for regular tyres. Winter tyres I find expensive compared to European prices. Motorbike tyres I can have a pair fitted in the UK for less than the rear tyre costs less balancing and fitting in Germany.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 12:34:05 GMT
I went down to Birmingham yesterday to see my son. Due to roadworks on the motorway, the limit for many miles is 50mph. Not only is this a perfect opportunity to use the speed limiter on the car, but it suits the car perfectly as well. On the way home, I filled up just one mile before the M5 (Junction 2). After about 65 miles, the range remaining said 988 miles. A potential 1,053 miles on a tank of fuel. That equates to 60mpg. I'll take that from a car the size of mine.
Clearly not a truly real world experience, but given that I fancy driving to Italy next summer, long distance constant speed cruising is what this car is perfect for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 17:27:45 GMT
The money you save can pay for the autoroute/autostrada tolls and Swiss vignette  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 18:39:12 GMT
The money you save can pay for the autoroute/autostrada tolls and Swiss vignette Oh Lord - yes forgotten about them. At least (if I recall correctly), tolls tend to mean lower volumes of traffic, better road surfaces and a generally high quality journey in which distance is eaten comfortably without going mad on the speed front...? I hope so.. Certainly my long distance trip two or three weeks back was vastly improved by lowish traffic volumes for much of the trip, being accomplished in excellent time and great economy without going over speed limits by more than 5%. The hardest part was the 65 miles back home from Doncaster at 4pm, during a murky evening, along a very busy M62 and past a clearly unwashed Leeds... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 18:56:00 GMT
You like to punish yourself, the M62 is grim at the best of times especially over the top towards Jctn 22.
I recall driving over there 1st July 1995, it was 10C and lashing down with rain like I'd never seen before.
If not in a hurry I'd rather take Woodhead, Snake Pass or Winnats Pass much more fun but it depends on which side of Manchester you need to get to and how much time you have.
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Post by WDB on Nov 27, 2017 20:06:03 GMT
Oh Lord - yes forgotten about them. At least (if I recall correctly), tolls tend to mean lower volumes of traffic, better road surfaces and a generally high quality journey in which distance is eaten comfortably without going mad on the speed front...? I hope so. That's certainly a fair summary of French toll motorways - although even the toll-free ones are pretty good. I was struck this August by the contrast between millpond-smooth French surfaces and the much more pockmarked Autobahnen in Germany, where only HGVs pay tolls, at least where we were, west of the Rhine. Belgium too, doesn't measure up to the French standard. Our foray into Switzerland was by train, so I can't make a comparison there. If you are paying French tolls, would you like to be my Sanef toll-tag buddy? There's a small incentive for each of us, plus the huge one of cruising past the queues at the gares de péage. And yes, I did remember to remove the tag from the E on Saturday. |
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 27, 2017 21:06:17 GMT
If not in a hurry I'd rather take Woodhead, Snake Pass or Winnats Pass much more fun but it depends on which side of Manchester you need to get to and how much time you have. ..over the years I've tended to use Woodhead a lot, but Mottram-in-Longdendale is now almost inevitably a car park, regardless of the direction of travel. |
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Post by Humph on Nov 27, 2017 21:14:17 GMT
I was on the 62 today. Hissing with rain, heavy traffic, some bozo had run into someone, the usual.
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