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Post by bpg on Jul 31, 2024 1:48:34 GMT
So, my 13 year old S60 diesel has developed a bit of a thirst of late triggering a regeneration every 90-120 miles something is definitely amiss.
Did a bit digging around via the OBDII port to find the lambda sensor looks like it has died. 0v 0 air:fuel reading. Contacted my local Volvo emporium who quoted me 250€ to plug it in before providing me with an estimate for the repair. Hahaha.
I can buy a replacement sensor for 147€ and fit it myself. Servicing must be very lucrative for dealers when they can turn work down or charge 250€ entrance fee.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 31, 2024 5:45:11 GMT
Crazy.
All the Volvo dealer has to do is say "... are you sure you just want us to fit the Lambda sensor? It may be another part that has gone faulty - do you want us to check?". You simply answer that you want them to do what you have asked them to do and if you have made a mistake it's your fault not theirs.
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Post by bpg on Jul 31, 2024 11:35:45 GMT
Went to another dealership this morning, they could not have been more different or helpful. Service guy went into the workshop and brought a tech guy out.
I talked him through what I was seeing with the car, wet tailpipes, increased fuel consumption, regen every 100 or so miles, rising oil level and I showed him the live data. He agreed I'm on the right lines. They have the full VIDA diagnostic equipment and will do a full check before throwing parts at the car. Brilliant, just what I wanted. Car goes in next Friday.
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Post by bpg on Aug 30, 2024 9:18:59 GMT
Thought I'd updated this. The car went in, O2 sensor replaced, oil and filter done at the same time.
Car is back to regen every 500 miles or so, fuel consumption restored. I'm continuing to run the chemical cleaners through for the injectors, EGR and DPF. There are traces of soot on the tailpipes so the chemicals are doing their thing, all excess fuel has disappeared from the pipes.
Now considering if I'm going to keep this car long(er) term. A conversation kit is available taking it from EU V to Euro VI. It's not expensive when comparing to the price of a new car. A couple of jobs coming up are shocks and springs. The only weak spot on the car I have not yet addressed is the radiator. They can rust in the bottom corner, so far so good with this one.
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Post by Humph on Aug 30, 2024 10:35:29 GMT
Why not if you like it. I’m increasingly a fan of fix and keep strategies. When you see what can be done with really very tired cars on Wheeler Dealers etc it reminds me that for a little effort and expenditure you can breathe years of new life into cars.
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Post by WDB on Aug 30, 2024 10:36:05 GMT
Conversion kit? Does that mean adblue and somewhere to store it? ECU mapping to match? First I’ve heard of that being possible.
(Wondering about the technical viability made me look at the official data for my old MB OM642 diesel, which turns out to be barely within the Euro 5 limits for NOx and HC+NOx . Would take some major modifications to convert that, I imagine.)
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Post by bpg on Aug 30, 2024 11:08:20 GMT
Urea injection, SCR catalytic converter and an AdBlue tank are added. No ECU modification as there is a separate controller for the exhaust system. The EGR controls remain with the ECU upstream as it's the O2 sensor in the exhaust that provides the fueling information of what's gone through the filter.
Available for Mercedes, Volvo, Audi, VW, Seat and Skoda.
The exhausts are then tested and provided the NOx emissions are below 270mg/km the car document is updated to Euro VI.
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Post by WDB on Aug 30, 2024 11:19:20 GMT
Isn’t 80mg the Euro 6 limit for NOx? 270mg wouldn’t get Euro 4.
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Post by bpg on Aug 30, 2024 11:25:00 GMT
80 is the lab limit, 270 is the real driving limit as specified in the Federal Emissions Control Act.
Edit: there are several kits available which are approved by the KBA (Federal Motor Transport Authority) and have ABE (National Type Approval) certificates.
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Post by WDB on Aug 30, 2024 11:39:13 GMT
Ah. Is that a purely German thing? I can't find a UK equivalent, not that I've tried that hard.
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Post by bpg on Aug 30, 2024 11:47:36 GMT
I did a similar thing with my old S60 D5 fitted an approved aftermarket conversion which took my car from Euro III to IV. With the official document I got it recognised on the V5C by DVLA.
That was pre-Brexit. Currently all UK cars still have to have European type approval, not sure if that will diverge in the future. If I get it done it will be documented in the official paperwork for the car so would imagine that would have to be accepted by all countries under the EU type approval agreement.
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Post by bpg on Sept 1, 2024 16:03:38 GMT
Why not if you like it. I’m increasingly a fan of fix and keep strategies. When you see what can be done with really very tired cars on Wheeler Dealers etc it reminds me that for a little effort and expenditure you can breathe years of new life into cars. Pretty much where I'm at with motoring now with modern cars becoming more and more disposable smartphones with a ten year life costing 60k€+ is absolute madness. The way things are going expect the S60 to be my last car. What strikes me is the UK allow coaches, HGVs, delivery vehicles to convert from Euro V to VI but not passenger cars although kits are available. Lots of man maths being passed off as science these days. |
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Post by dixinormus on Sept 4, 2024 8:17:49 GMT
Agreed, bpg. Would rather spend the money on other things now. And have ICE cars really improved over the past 15 years? Ah Yes, there’s an iPad nailed to the dash…
There’s no stigma to driving a diesel in the Antipodes - we’re awash with Hiluxes and Rangers - so SWMBO’s 9 year old diesel Mitsubishi won’t be going anywhere. (Quite literally - I took it out of the garage for the first time in 4 months last weekend!)
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Post by Humph on Sept 10, 2024 14:13:21 GMT
The wheels on my old Merc are now all quite tatty as a result of surface corrosion. They are diamond cut things which are mainly black but with polished silver highlights on the “spokes”.
Pondering whether to get them refurbished.
Dilemmas include -
1/ Getting them put back to as original is fairly expensive, in the region of £130 a wheel. It’s an old car with lots of miles and can I be bothered?
2/ Having them done in a solid colour eg Merc standard issue silver would be cheaper, in the region of £80 a wheel. Might be worth a go.
3/ I’ve noticed that quite a few people have them done all black, presumably to appear sportier, but that smacks of desperation to me.
4/ Who cares anyway, it’s an old car etc…
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Post by WDB on Sept 10, 2024 14:24:53 GMT
The CLS’s wheels had a few corrosion scabs on them by the time I sold it. I kept wondering what to do about them — and the right solution was probably what I did: nothing.
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