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Post by dixinormus on Apr 5, 2024 22:06:36 GMT
Well it’s here, and perhaps I owe Subaru a small apology - there are quite a few small enhancements and changes over the 4-year old model. Plus a different front bumper, grille, and headlights..!
It’s been randomly assigned a rather rare short 4-character number plate by the local equivalent of the DVLA which I find bizarrely appealing. Don’t think it can be misinterpreted as a private prat plate either 😂
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Post by Humph on Apr 5, 2024 22:46:07 GMT
Well, unless the characters are actually P.R.A.T. I suppose?
But that would be awfully bad luck!
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Post by dixinormus on Apr 10, 2024 21:37:22 GMT
Same engine, same power output, but now with slightly longer service intervals. Wonder how they’ve managed that.?!
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Post by Rob on Apr 10, 2024 23:27:35 GMT
Perhaps because they realised it can go for longer without an oil change etc. without a problem due to reliability?
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Post by bpg on Apr 11, 2024 2:21:36 GMT
Same engine, same power output, but now with slightly longer service intervals. Wonder how they’ve managed that.?! What's the interval now ? I had read it was 6,000 miles or 12 months. With our Toyota it was every 15,000kms or 12 months. Given the odo was reading 57km/h at a true 50km/h that meant it was in the garage less than every 8,200 miles. No wonder Japanese cars are so reliable, they're never out the workshop. |
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Post by WDB on Apr 11, 2024 7:40:17 GMT
With our Toyota it was every 15,000kms or 12 months. Given the [speedometer] was reading 57km/h at a true 50km/h that meant it was in the garage less than every 8,200 miles. Shouldn’t this be in Things people say? There’s no technical reason (since ABS sensors) for an odometer to overread, so any error would have to be designed in, as it is with speedometers. And with the odometer reading being the basis of contracts with many car users, manufacturers would be on shaky legal ground if they did that. |
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Post by bpg on Apr 11, 2024 8:35:04 GMT
Legally the speedometer must never under read, they can over read.
In these days of GPS being in every car and from July all the additional recording they could be calibrated exactly. Using GPS apps on my phones (more than one for a particular test) connected to 10+ satellites the Toyota was out by 7 km/h at 50km/h. If that's 'things people say' then I apologise for being in the wrong thread.
Granted it's not 100% guaranteed and I understand GPS on phones can be up to 50 metres out, it's not a million miles off.
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Post by WDB on Apr 11, 2024 9:07:43 GMT
Yes, but a modern speedometer has the error designed - or configured - in; it's not a tolerance of imperfections in a mechanical instrument. In my cars, it's not been linear - usually bang on at urban speeds and up to about 5mph over at an indicated 70. (The E220 was bang on even there, but that was an old-school Mercedes.) I suspect that pattern is selected intentionally, not just sample variation.
The odometer is a different display of the same near-perfect wheel rotation data - very different from the 1960s model of a cable turning a counter. A designed-in error in the speedometer reading doesn't affect the odometer count; if that has an error, it's been designed in separately. (Hence my legal comment above - what would Esp say to his lease company on returning his Ioniq 5 if there was a possibility it was overcounting his mileage by 14 percent?)
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Post by bpg on Apr 11, 2024 9:51:50 GMT
Any legal dispute would, I suspect, default back to what does the odometer say. That's the number in the car, that's what you pay.
It would only get any traction or action if sufficient numbers complained.
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Post by dixinormus on Apr 11, 2024 22:31:42 GMT
Service interval has been extended from 12,500km to 15,000 or yearly. A lot of manufacturers (VAG,..) seem to go for 1 year/15,000km in these parts. Is 2-yearly servicing still a thing?
Subaru in Dubai back in 2008 had 6000km service intervals! Guess they were wary of the extreme climate in those parts.
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Post by Rob on Apr 12, 2024 0:38:40 GMT
Twice a year was certainly the case in the UK when I had company cars. And my first Mazda6 (2007-2011) had the trick of filling the exhaust with diesel for DPF burnoff which resulted in diesel in the engine sump. A couple of times I had the usual discussion with the lease company to change the oil early. They always backed down when I pointed out should the oil level get to high resulting in the turbo ingesting the oil and disintegrating and ending up in the engine.... I'd not be liable because if it was my car with the oil level now above full and going up I'd change it. Similar to how needing new tyres due to a puncture and they would not swap the tyre on the other axle near the limit - when told they would be liable and not be if there was an accident....
In fact once with the oil level and once with tyres I ended up involving some senior manager at my employer who immediately backed me. The lease company was never going to be out of pocket.
Strange how mentioning legal responsibility and cars can change things... I am thinking something else IT wise that is 'topical' but will keep to myself :-)
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Post by bpg on Apr 12, 2024 6:05:00 GMT
Service interval has been extended from 12,500km to 15,000 or yearly. A lot of manufacturers (VAG,..) seem to go for 1 year/15,000km in these parts. Is 2-yearly servicing still a thing? Subaru in Dubai back in 2008 had 6000km service intervals! Guess they were wary of the extreme climate in those parts. Two year servicing is still a thing for Fiesta I think it was and some EVs. The new service interval for your Subaru is the same as KIA for an EV here in Germany, ¾ distance of my Ford and ½ the distance of my Volvo. If you want to get into the servicing business go Asian vehicles. Could explain why there is a disproportionate number of KIA and Toyota dealers to cars on the road near where I live. There's even a couple of Subaru service places, I knew of one and have subsequently found another, and I can't remember the last time I saw a Subaru. |
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Post by WDB on Apr 12, 2024 6:21:43 GMT
Is 2-yearly servicing still a thing? If we mean biennial rather than biannual, then yes, that’s BMW’s EV regime. No engine oil for even the fleeciest owner to fret about, and brakes that barely get dusty, never mind wear out. The dealers still push their service plans but it wasn’t hard to work out it was rather poor value. |
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Post by EspadaIII on Apr 12, 2024 11:11:50 GMT
The service for the I5 is every 12 months or 10,000 miles. The first year was £72 and this year about £185. Basically stick it on the ramp for a check over, plug it in for a software check and that's it. The higher cost this year was for a brake fluid change and a cabin filter.
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Post by bpg on Apr 12, 2024 12:10:18 GMT
I expect at some point I'll get a big bill for my EV for disintegrated pads, seized callipers and brake servo and heavily corroded discs through lack of use.
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