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Post by dixinormus on Mar 13, 2024 7:57:43 GMT
I will soon be saying farewell to my (company provided) 2020 Subaru Forester… and welcoming a new 2024 Subaru Forester.
Can’t remember if or when I have made a like-for-like swap before, but it’s striking how few changes and differences the new model has. Almost an anticlimax. Back in the day the mass manufacturers like Ford seem to “refresh” their models every year to make last year’s car look “old”: new wheels, bumpers, seat fabrics, badges,…. Subaru evidently don’t do that. But still… shiny!
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Post by Humph on Mar 13, 2024 9:01:04 GMT
Different colour?
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Post by WDB on Mar 13, 2024 10:42:15 GMT
‘Company Subaru’ isn’t a phrase we hear often. I did pass two successive Subarus on the A40 in January, which surprised me; one successive Subaru is rare enough.
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 13, 2024 16:54:34 GMT
Similar to in the US, Subaru is a remarkably popular brand in the Antipodes and sales are healthy across their model range. Quite sharply priced too, which may be where the UK importer is going wrong. Their 4WD system is quite useful and welcome in these parts.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 13, 2024 22:19:19 GMT
In the 60s and 70s some cars were massively priced such that some Lamborghinis or Maseratis were more than Rolls Royces etc.
Now we have Subarus which are similarly overpriced compared to cars of similar size and the only USP is 4x4 which is nice but I can count on the fingers of one hand I have missed it since I sold my Outback in 2010.
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Post by Humph on Mar 13, 2024 23:16:27 GMT
Ah yes, I remember that car. It was a “Sledge” special edition model wasn’t it?
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Post by Alanović on Mar 14, 2024 8:46:55 GMT
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Post by WDB on Mar 14, 2024 9:13:50 GMT
£8200 for two years and 10,000 miles. But is it just a rebadged Toyota BZ-whatever? If so, it can't do preconditioning, which would be a dealbreaker for me. (As would be buying an EV from a maker that so obviously doesn’t want to make EVs.)
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Post by Alanović on Mar 14, 2024 9:17:01 GMT
Yes I think it's a rebadged B4zXwRte-i-e-i-o or whatever the hell it is.
Odd about the preconditioning. Why would they leave that out? Toyota are going well weird these days.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 14, 2024 9:37:44 GMT
Ah yes, I remember that car. It was a “Sledge” special edition model wasn’t it? 😈 Stop it... I'll never live that down will I? Just remember guys, all cars have 4x4 brakes, so 4x4 driven wheels do not help when sliding down a steep snow covered drive towards a busy main road... |
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Post by WDB on Mar 14, 2024 9:38:46 GMT
Not even on a level surface. ‘Go anywhere’ is one thing, but ‘stop anywhere’ has yet to be invented.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 14, 2024 9:41:06 GMT
£8200 for two years and 10,000 miles. But is it just a rebadged Toyota BZ-whatever? If so, it can't do preconditioning, which would be a dealbreaker for me. (As would be buying an EV from a maker that so obviously doesn’t want to make EVs.) Not sure my I5 has pre-conditioning. Certainly it can take a few minutes at lower temperatures to increase charging speed from 35kW to over 120kW. But the advantage of my car is that once it warms up the speed takes off like Concorde all the way to 200kW+ (subject to the charger being capable of delivering that speed). |
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Post by WDB on Mar 14, 2024 9:54:25 GMT
I meant cabin preconditioning, so it can defrost itself before you get in. The Toyota doesn’t do that, so you have to sit inside, burning time and range, until you can see where you’re going.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 14, 2024 9:58:14 GMT
Ah - gosh no.. Thats one of the best things about an EV. Cabin heat before you get in.
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Post by Alanović on Mar 14, 2024 10:11:29 GMT
I meant cabin preconditioning, so it can defrost itself before you get in. The Toyota doesn’t do that, so you have to sit inside, burning time and range, until you can see where you’re going. Ludicrous. The more I hear about "improved" EVs, the more I like my "obsolete" Leaf, and the more impressed I am by how much they got right so early in the EV development curve. Range, schmange. |
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