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Post by Rob on Jan 30, 2024 23:33:09 GMT
Or was it a Peugeot 107?
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Post by Humph on Jan 31, 2024 9:14:56 GMT
I suppose with these things, as with many aspects of life, you first have to decide whether to care. I just prefer the stying of the 124 to the MX5 and that of the Renegade to the Fiat alternative. It seems to bother those who don’t have one way more than it does those who do. Up to them I guess.
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Post by bpg on Jan 31, 2024 9:41:36 GMT
Choice is good, make the most of it while you can.
Europe is effectively down to four manufacturers now (VAG, Stelantis, BMW & Mercedes - is Renault still an independent or is that now under the Nissan banner ?), the Americans have runfer d'hills, Chrysler gone, GM sold Opel/Vauxhall to Stelantis and Ford down to bare bones Puma, Kuga, Mach-e and Ranger. If you want an affordable, European, family car your choice might come down to a lion, chevrons, lightning bolt, griffin or acronym on the steering wheel.
What a time to be alive !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2024 10:06:04 GMT
But it's not beige or brown... I'll make an exception for these, they look best in red, green or black & white.
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Post by WDB on Jan 31, 2024 10:21:32 GMT
I suppose with these things, as with many aspects of life, you first have to decide whether to care. Yes. Happens in other areas too. I bought a new and entirely unnecessary mechanical watch late last year, and researching that took me into the world of the 'in-house movement'. To summarise, there are companies that make movements, which they sell to other companies to build into watches. But a few companies (not always the ones you might expect) make the movements for their own watches, and a certain kind of watch snob regards such machinery as superior. The Eberhard I've worn for 15 years (and still enjoy) has a bought-in movement and seems none the worse for it. As it happens, the watch I chose has both bought-in and in-house versions, and I judged that the in-house one had real-world practical benefits (ironic, I know, in a thing as impractical as a mechanical watch) so I went for that. Although the watch world exists in a set of groups not unlike the car industry, so the bottom half of the internet isn't convinced it deserves the title. But I like it as it is, so that's OK.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 31, 2024 10:21:56 GMT
My favourite colour scheme for anything is a mid-green with cream. Feels old fashioned but just works.
I had two estates, the Outback and the E350 both beige/champagne paint with cream interior. Fine but around the corner from me were two guys with these cars both with green metallic paint... Jealous doesn't even cut it.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jan 31, 2024 10:25:12 GMT
The bought in versus the in-house argument is interesting.
Bought-in implies absolute expertise in that one area and the buyer can choose from a variety of models and levels of quality control. Similar to various components in a car I suppose.
In-house implies suited for that purpose exactly with no compromise but that may mean that leading edge technology comes late to the party.
Does it matter?
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Post by WDB on Jan 31, 2024 10:28:32 GMT
My favourite colour scheme for anything is a mid-green with cream. Feels old fashioned but just works. Shallow, isn’t it, but I’d probably have just bought an iX3 by now if it came in some better colours. It’s partly why I was so disappointed not to get on with the Ioniq 5; the green-cream combination looks great on that, and not old-fashioned at all.
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Post by Humph on Jan 31, 2024 10:38:16 GMT
Y’see, we’re just about to set off in the direction of a forest with bikes on the top of the car and all manner of mainly superfluous but pleasing kit in the boot. Two seater wouldn’t really cut that would it. Irritating, a bit anyway. 😉
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Post by Humph on Jan 31, 2024 10:42:40 GMT
…re watches, as previously discussed, I tend to default to my plastic digital one these days. Not because it could be accused of having any beauty, on the contrary it’s an ugly s.o.b. but it just does more things I like than the others.
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Post by WDB on Jan 31, 2024 11:38:06 GMT
The bought in versus the in-house argument is interesting. Bought-in implies absolute expertise in that one area and the buyer can choose from a variety of models and levels of quality control. Similar to various components in a car I suppose. In-house implies suited for that purpose exactly with no compromise but that may mean that leading edge technology comes late to the party. Does it matter? I think there are watch buyers who want their movement fashioned by a gnarled artisan using only a hacksaw and a file, not stamped out in the hundreds of thousands on a CNC machine. And these people imagine that these two methods fall either side of the line between bought-in and in-house, which they really don't. My 'in-house' watch is very much a CNC product, just a less generic one than some. And you might argue that the big-name watch makers have an incentive to develop new technology - amagnetic balance wheels and silicon springs are a current example - to differentiate their own movements from the generic. Cars are more complex, of course, and the entry barriers higher; it may once have been possible to order a car's worth of bits and assemble them in a shed (TVR springs to mind as the last of that line) but it's hard to imagine today. I don't imagine many car buyers would insist on an artisan-built battery or ECU, either. But in the mainstream, just as your Golf, Octavia, A3 or - erm, does Seat still exist? - is a different set of design, materials and quality control on the same mechanical base, a Tissot is essentially the same inside as a Certina or Hamilton, because they use the same 'in-group' movement. In either case, you just buy the one you like the look (or price) of. So, to return to BPG's point, there's less choice out there than many would imagine.
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Post by Humph on Jan 31, 2024 15:24:33 GMT
I have a couple of mechanical/automatic watches and they mostly annoy me a bit. They don’t keep very good time unless you wear them 24/7 or leave them on a watch winder thingy which always seems to have run it’s batteries down, the weight of them hurts my damaged wrist, they need servicing every few years at outrageous costs and I’m afraid to wear them on my bike in case they get damaged or leave them in a changing room locker in case they get nicked, or wear them to swim in case they leak, or wear them in cities in case I get mugged. 🙄 My old G Shock though keeps perfect time by picking up a radio signal, never needs a battery or servicing because it’s solar powered, weighs nothing, doesn’t matter if it gets bashed about and doesn’t attract attention from anyone undesirable or otherwise. It is however, butt ugly. Which in and of itself can be an advantage, I need all the help I can get in making myself less attractive to predatory female attention. 😎
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Post by WDB on Jan 31, 2024 15:33:55 GMT
All true. Apart from the hurty-wristy bit, I expect you make a similar rationalisation for wearing Crocs. 😈
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Post by Humph on Jan 31, 2024 15:38:11 GMT
I’ve never had to wind my shoes up though.
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Post by WDB on Jan 31, 2024 16:12:30 GMT
Laces. No friend of the Older Gentleman.
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