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Post by Humph on Feb 1, 2023 15:07:30 GMT
Ah so!
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Post by WDB on Feb 1, 2023 15:20:52 GMT
Selbsverständlich!
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Post by bpg on May 2, 2023 14:43:34 GMT
So, that's three...
My MiL picked up her new Fiesta MHEV 3 weeks and four days ago. Loves it to bits. I had a shot of it on collection day, I was very impressed by the ride quality especially on 17" wheels and the ploughed fields that are Edinburgh roads these days.
She drove it on Saturday, went out today unlocked it, got in, no ignition. I've just got home, battery won't unlock the car now, blade and doors to manual to get in. Battery 5.16 volts. That's all three cars bought new since 2020 that have had dead 12v batteries now.
No lights left on outside or inside. Will check drain when I get this battery charged up again.
Starting to think keeping the relatively low tech, no OTA Volvo might be the smart move.
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Post by WDB on May 3, 2023 10:11:37 GMT
That's all three cars bought new since 2020 that have had dead 12v batteries now. That seems extraordinarily unlucky, BPG. Any common factor beyond recent date of manufacture?
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Post by bpg on May 3, 2023 10:27:46 GMT
Not that I can get to the bottom of. The KIA I suspect was the result of an OTA but no one is admitting to, my Focus I suspect was the result of 13k Kms in two years, the bulk of which was two road trips over two or three weeks, though it got the same 12v boost once per month as my diesel Volvo. I think I may have sussed the Fiesta issue, there is a bolt next to the fuse box which was only finger tight. I nipped that up and the dash cane back to life. The battery was still low, leaving that on a recondition charge then to test it out.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 10:47:03 GMT
Yes I've replaced the batteries in both the Civic and Corolla post-pandemic. Lack of use, isn't it, wasn't it. Jumpers for goalposts. Marvellous.
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Post by WDB on Jun 21, 2023 11:28:19 GMT
I'm ready to tempt fate by saying that my battery concern is over, at least for this winter. ... We may yet get another spell of deep chill, but the battery recovered from the previous one and will recover again. I think it's fine, and I'll keep running it every week or so to keep it that way. Well, don't I feel silly now, for writing that? The car's lifeless - wouldn't even open when I tried to take it to German last night. Since it had been fine on Saturday, I thought at first it was a keyfob battery problem, but when the other fob failed to unlock it this morning, I opened the driver's door with the mechanical key blade and found nothing happening within, the dashboard clock forlornly stopped at 9.20. We've had some ferocious rainfall since the weekend, so it's possible some stray water has added to an existing battery problem, but I think the thing has just come to the end of its life, at least in this car. Not taking any more assurances from the AA that the battery is fine - although the output to the monitoring app still shows healthy voltages in the 13.0-14.5V range from Saturday's outing. I have a mobile fitter booked to supply a new one, although annoyingly not till Friday morning. That's a week before we go to Wales, so I just need it done this time.
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Post by dixinormus on Jun 21, 2023 20:08:39 GMT
That’s what batteries do, in my experience. Fine one day and nothing the next. As soon as they start to show signs of weakness you’re on borrowed time..!
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Post by WDB on Jun 23, 2023 16:13:12 GMT
Well, I wonder whether the old battery was below par even when I bought the car. The new one went in this morning, so I took the CLS out on my afternoon mission and drove it the long way home.
Observations: the green ECO symbol for stop-start took a while to come on — I don’t suppose the battery was quite full when it arrived — but once on, it stayed on, even after several stops in town traffic. That never happened with the old battery, even when it was only four years old. And when it did stop, it often restarted even before the lights had changed. This seems much better. And the sub-80°C coolant temperature I’ve been complaining about hit a much healthier 85-90°C, according to the MB app, with the oil temperature reaching 98°C, which makes me wonder whether the old battery had even been supplying the sensors properly.
So the car seems happier, and should work better on the long trip next week. I should probably have had this done years ago. Given their fondness for spotting work that isn’t even there, I’m a little surprised the battery has never popped up as a comment when the car’s been in an MB workshop.
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Post by WDB on Feb 24, 2024 17:26:27 GMT
Hmm. Car refused to start one morning this week. The week got too busy to get it checked — until today, when an AA engineer pronounced it not just flat but failed. The alternator is delivering plenty of current at the right voltage but the battery is not accepting enough of it to stay charged.
So it’s a warranty claim on the nine-month-old battery and — probably — several days’ wait for a replacement. Bother.
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Post by Rob on Feb 24, 2024 21:21:02 GMT
Presumably when running, a multimeter was showing 14V or more across the battery meaning the alternator was working. And when stopped the battery was showing less than 12V and even after running for a bit the voltage in the battery hadn't gone up much?
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Post by WDB on Feb 25, 2024 8:20:03 GMT
Exactly that. 14.1V running, stubbornly 10.7V from the battery. Plan was to take the car out for an hour or so but it now seems that wouldn’t have got enough charge into the battery to restart the engine.
What puzzles me — and, frankly, annoys me too — is that if an AA patrol with a multimeter can tell this is happening, why can’t the car monitor the battery and detect the problem before it simply won’t start? My dad’s 1973 Renault 12 had an ammeter in the instrument panel. I suppose that measured the output from the alternator rather than the charge in the battery but it was still information that my vastly more complex car doesn’t offer me. I used to be able to see battery voltage from the Mercedes Me OBD device but MB has dropped support for that and there seems to be no other way to access the data, at least from inside the car.
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Post by Humph on Feb 25, 2024 11:20:59 GMT
Can’t remember where/who fitted that new battery for you. Was it a garage or did you do it yourself?
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Post by WDB on Feb 25, 2024 12:14:41 GMT
It was supplied and fitted by National Tyres and Autocare, at a price discounted by my AA membership. The battery itself is branded Halfords (in the same group) as there wasn’t a Varta one in stock at the time. It came with a five-year warranty, which I trust they’ll stand by.
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Post by Humph on Feb 25, 2024 12:22:54 GMT
Oh ok, so it should be straightforward enough to get someone to help you with it? You’d think anyway.
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