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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 4, 2022 10:31:06 GMT
I love watching curling. It's bowls on heat (metaphorically..can't really be hot can it?). I wish there was somewhere to play near Manchester. I really want to have a go.
That's all. Just wanted to get it out there...
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Post by WDB on Feb 4, 2022 12:07:54 GMT
Yep. Bowls is an underrated game too — so much better than golf because you can drink at the same time. As a curler, you can even put your beer down while you play and it will stay cold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:37:22 GMT
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 4, 2022 12:40:32 GMT
It's a long way to Idaho and I eat too many potatos as it is....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:42:09 GMT
Oh well, if you're going to be all difficult about it....
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 4, 2022 12:43:11 GMT
Wonder why it's called the Manchester Ice Centre (sorry Center).
Maybe there's a Man City supporter in charge...
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Post by WDB on Feb 4, 2022 12:49:53 GMT
It’s spelled ‘Centre’ on the website. Perhaps it’s run by an expat (Brits who move to other countries are never ‘migrants’, are they?) from the other rainy northwest.
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 4, 2022 12:52:36 GMT
OOh well spotted!
Yes, why are we expats and not migrants? What to other countries call their citizens who live elsewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:56:06 GMT
Because we exceptional, greatest of all nations.
Roooaaaar.
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 4, 2022 13:10:36 GMT
I think even the Lefty Redtops and the Grauniad calls them expats.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 13:15:23 GMT
Expat v. Immigrant
I don't think there's a good answer.
One can try all manner of explanations and definitions but it always ends up being unattractive.
By and large I would say that those referred to as expats are English speakers.
That's the only consistency I can think of.
There's also a class element, an element of colour, neither of which are a good thing.
In Spanish officially I am "Extranjero", casually gringo, but rarely inmigrante and never expat.
One only ever hears Expat used by native English speakers and almost always referring to other native English speakers.
Mostly I think it's only an issue obsessed over by English speakers as well. I don't think many people care.
"expat" is not a term I use myself, not for any particular reason, just don't.
Usually I am "the gringo" , and that's fine by me.
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Post by bpg on Feb 4, 2022 14:02:45 GMT
Never heard the word Immigrant/in here only the liberally applied Ausländer (foreigner). There's an expatingermany website, I don't use it, prefer to get my information first hand from the locals.
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Post by Humph on Feb 4, 2022 15:11:26 GMT
I have curled. Won’t be bothering again. Not entirely an adrenaline rush sort of thing.
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Post by WDB on Feb 4, 2022 15:27:30 GMT
In Spanish officially I am "Extranjero", casually gringo, but rarely inmigrante and never expat. ... In the US, you'd be a Resident Alien. I suspect it's partly a question of whether an immigrant feels they've moved countries to live in the local community or merely alongside it. There's a superior, set-apart sense to 'ex-pat', which fits a certain type of Brit very well. But the authorities that issue visas and residence permits, of course, don't recognise the distinction. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 15:38:26 GMT
>>In the US, you'd be a Resident Alien.
Indeed I was. I used to play that Sting song quite loudly at one stage.
>> There's a superior, set-apart sense to 'ex-pat', which fits a certain type of Brit very well
I was going to say something similar but then I realised that most, if not all, English speaking countries also use the word and in much the same way.
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