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Post by bpg on May 8, 2021 19:57:29 GMT
Probably just as well the UK left the EU. There are rules in Europe about the use of flip flops and baffies for driving.
Fold the rear seats down and there should be plenty of room for beanstalk beans. 😉
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Post by Humph on May 8, 2021 20:17:01 GMT
Yeah, I'm going to try not to think about those shoes anymore. Anyway, good news that the Aygo fits the beests.
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Post by bpg on May 8, 2021 20:25:33 GMT
Not sure Mrs deBeest would entertain the idea of a stretch Aygo to replace the lounge mobile however inconspicuous it might be around Reading, especially on Saturday night.
Imagine Fantomworks. WDB: Dan, I've got two Aygos. I want you to cut and shut them together and put a Tesla battery pack and motor in. Dan: I don't understand that language about battery packs and electric motors though I can put an LS3 with auto trans in and add 5 tonnes of steel for bracing.
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Post by WDB on May 8, 2021 20:44:53 GMT
Yeah, I'm going to try not to think about those shoes anymore. Yeah, sorry about those. They’re an old pair of Ecco things that I keep by the back door for putting the bins out and walking to the gym — not usually at the same time. But they’re usefully slimmer than my various welted shoes, so I kept them on today as a sort of bare necessary minimum. I had nobody to impress — or so I thought anyway — so I reasoned that if these didn’t fit the Aygo’s pedals, it wasn’t the car for us. As it turned out, of course, I could have worn double-sole Loakes and been fine.
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Post by Humph on May 8, 2021 20:50:22 GMT
Great news. It is amazing that so much space is available in such a small car. Relatively tall for its length though I suppose. Did you actually drive that one or just sit in it?
Good learner cars in my opinion. Really easy to drive.
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Post by bpg on May 8, 2021 21:21:51 GMT
All teasing aside probably a fine first car for anyone. My first car was 11 years old, graduating to a 6 year old car after my first car was rear ended. No zinc and mega rust proofing in those days. My eldest who's 6' 3", started out with an early 2000s Yaris. They're quite robust as he proved.
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Post by Humph on May 8, 2021 21:38:19 GMT
They are good wee cars. A friend who has one of those VW Transporter camper van thingies for weekends away and moving his bikes also has an Aygo as an urban runaround. I could imagine a time when we might have one main car and a little one like that as backup.
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Post by bpg on May 8, 2021 22:57:18 GMT
Given how hard it was in the 70's to get parts for a FIAT built in Italy, what are the chances, post Brexit, for parts from a super enhanced 80:20 Japanese:UK agreement? Say cheese Liz Truss.
Still, doing trade half way across the planet doesn't count, carbon neutral innit.
Australia are still super dependant on mother UK and have no agreements in places with their near neighbours.
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Post by Humph on May 17, 2021 11:09:03 GMT
Any old how, what about that wee Aygo?
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Post by WDB on May 17, 2021 11:49:07 GMT
It will be here at the end of May. No rush on either side, what with exams and things at this end.
I’m seeing the bloody things everywhere now. Especially blue ones. Having actively sought out blue cars for most of my buying life, I’m now wondering whether this one won’t look a bit shouty on my drive, but I suppose I’ll get used to it.
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Post by Humph on May 17, 2021 12:06:01 GMT
They are very blue. There's one right outside my home office window at the moment. Looking very blue indeed.
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Post by Humph on May 17, 2021 12:21:03 GMT
We put bike racks on his Aygo, even while he was still a learner. I felt it was important to just get him used to using the car as part of his daily life as opposed to every outing being a "lesson". Every time he wanted to go somewhere, and one of us was available to supervise, then he drove. Same with us, if one of us needed to go somewhere and he was free, again, he drove. Of course we were "teaching" him at the same time, but it was about making car use a normal activity for him rather than implying that it was some kind of black art.
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Post by WDB on May 17, 2021 13:00:19 GMT
I fully agree that the way to learn to drive is by driving when you have somewhere to drive to. It’s the pattern I’m hoping to establish with our two, once they’ve mastered enough of the basics to be safe.
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Post by Humph on May 17, 2021 13:22:06 GMT
Well, you'll soon find out what works for you and yours I guess, but what we did was buy him 6 driving lessons ( which in the end was three two hour sessions roughly three days apart ) to get him started. Just wanted to make sure he'd got the basic gist of it on a dual control car with a proper instructor initially. But, after that, he seemed happier just sitting with one of us in his own car. We'd have stumped for more official lessons if required of course, but he said he preferred getting to grips with his own car without the formal training.
He was in it most days at some point until he got his test date. He was 17 and at the local 6th form college at the time. Even that meant 2x trips of 5 miles in fairly heavy traffic on week days. Took about 12 weeks all up as I recall.
Even nipping to the supermarket in the evening for a loaf could involve reverse parking in a bay for example. Just make it part of daily life.
We never fell out over it. I just made him promise that if I asked him to do something, that he should do it immediately, and not argue or question it, even if he disagreed or didn't understand, until the car was stopped, when we could discuss the reason/s why I'd told him whatever I'd told him.
In the end I think we both quite enjoyed the excercise. Well, I did anyway, and it seemed to work for him.
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Post by WDB on May 17, 2021 14:04:06 GMT
It will certainly work with Boy1, who has an orderly engineer’s mind and understands the need for systems and safety. Boy2 is still deep in a (late) stroppy teen phase, thinks I’m a ‘bumbling moron’ and is more likely to go on making a mistake rather than let me tell him not to. On the other hand, he’s not a reckless idiot and he will see that it’s in his interest to comply.
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