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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 14:29:27 GMT
It's less to do with frost and more to do with tree sap for me. My property is bordered by many lime and sycamore trees (and also a massive Magnolia which overhangs the drive and I refuse to cut back because it's magnificent) which drop horrible goo and leaves and various other god-knows-what and also bird droppings, which appear to be from birds which exclusively feed on black laurel berries, all year round.
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Post by dixinormus on Aug 17, 2020 16:23:09 GMT
That Mondeo is 40% more expensive than the others... comparing apples with apples?
Don’t think I could have mechanical confidence in a 12-year old Peugeot. Focus looks ok, but worth checking underneath for rust? Aren’t Fords still notorious for it as they reach a certain age?
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Post by Humph on Aug 17, 2020 16:27:16 GMT
I once left my car under a tree outside a hotel in Dusseldorf for 4 days in high summer. The car had black paint, but suffice it to say it was more or less white with baked on bird droppings when I got back to it. Ran it through a car wash, but the stuff was pretty much welded on. Had to drive it back to the UK like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 8:44:59 GMT
That Mondeo is 40% more expensive than the others... comparing apples with apples? Don’t think I could have mechanical confidence in a 12-year old Peugeot. Focus looks ok, but worth checking underneath for rust? Aren’t Fords still notorious for it as they reach a certain age? Of course it isn't comparing apples with apples. But I haven't decided if I want an apple, an orange or a dorian fruit yet. That's the point of canvassing some opinion from you blokes. Mk2 Focuses had better rust protection than the Mk1. Which had none. I've griced the MOT history of a lot of Mk2s in the last few weeks, not much mention of rust on them. I see a fair number of Peugeot 306s, 207s etc on the road still. In France there are loads of 205s rattling about. I don't share you opinions of Peugeots, some of them are pretty robust and long lived. But that 308 is definitely the wildcard, I'm hugely unlikely to go for it.
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2020 9:13:06 GMT
Re the size v learner friendliness. I learned to drive on a combination of a BSM Mini and my dad's Volvo 244. Both of which are much smaller than their modern equivalents of course, but the relative size difference never seemed to be an issue. Only had 6 lessons on the Mini with most of my learner experience on the Volvo, and it was fine. I think it's more of a perceived problem than a real one. A pal of mine learned on a Transit van.
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Post by WDB on Aug 18, 2020 9:26:44 GMT
One tip my instructor gave me early on was that it’s easier to drive in the car than on it. 🤓
(But then, train hard, play easy. Maybe this is how Humph became a driving god and I didn’t.)
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2020 10:42:02 GMT
Of course my natural inclination to modesty forfends total agreement with your final caveat WDB, but, I do think learning on or even in a variety of sizes of vehicles can't harm, and may help.
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 18, 2020 11:10:09 GMT
Don't disagree there. I was driving HGVs around the yard at my father's business when I was 13. By the time I was 17 I could drive anything; I just needed to learn to pass the test. But for people without that advantage does a smaller car help; especially in the light of a case in the paper this morning about some stupid parents giving their 17 year old son a BMW when he passed his test. He promptly drove like an idiot and killed his mate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 11:11:25 GMT
Bugger, just twigged I was wrong about the Clio cam chain. This generation (Mk3) has a belt on the 1.2 TCe, it's the later Mk4 which is a 3-cyl and has a chain, and that's the engine which the reviewers rave about. Arses. The Mk3 TCe is just a turbo charged version of the standard 1.2 75bhp engine.
Thanks the Lord for decent model specific car forums.
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2020 11:25:39 GMT
Here's a wee bit of motoring trivia for you, the first car I ever "drove", well, caused to move anyway, was an Aston Martin DB6. It belonged to the father of a friend. The father was abroad, working in Australia and the car was on their property just outside of Edinburgh. They had a fair bit of land, we were on school holidays, and we were 14.
My pal decided to take the car out of the garage and "drive" it around their place. Then he let me have a go.
We thought we had got away with it, but must have been seen by someone, because when his mother returned later that day it all got a bit heated.
My friend is no longer with us, but his dad is still alive and still has that DB6, although it's not his daily driver. Must be worth a bit now that car.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 11:50:11 GMT
Sorry to hear about your friend.
But you've nicked that story off of off Ferris Bueller.
Anyway first car I drove was a Nissan Micra, so there.
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2020 11:55:55 GMT
Who's Ferrets Bueller?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 11:57:41 GMT
Some bloke from Yaarkshur.
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Post by Humph on Aug 18, 2020 11:59:57 GMT
Does he have a DB6?
My brain is starting to hurt...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 12:02:59 GMT
Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder.
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