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Post by Humph on Feb 3, 2020 21:50:06 GMT
Wonder what happens in the village in May? 🤔
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Post by WDB on Feb 3, 2020 22:22:30 GMT
I don't know, but I'd be staying away from that big basketwork thing on the green.
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Post by tyrednexited on Feb 4, 2020 7:16:49 GMT
Wonder what happens in the village in May? 🤔 ...Annual Boy Scouts' camp...
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Post by Alanović on Feb 4, 2020 8:26:45 GMT
It was my 50th birthday the day before Brexit, and I had a big party on the evening after. Great news about Mrs A and Happy Birthday Vić, same day as mine. You should come over to Dummer next year. There are six of us in our local with the same birthday not counting any kids in the village who might have the same date. Not bad from a population of around 500. Blimey, that's quite something. Happy belated Birthday to you too in that case. Always nice to be able to celebrate the beheading of King Charles I and the appointment of Hitler as Chancellor of Germany alongside my birthday. An auspicious day in history.
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Post by Humph on Feb 5, 2020 17:26:04 GMT
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Post by WDB on Feb 5, 2020 22:50:04 GMT
Whatever that is, I can’t see it.
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Post by Alanović on Feb 6, 2020 12:49:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 16:18:38 GMT
The news has been full this past couple of days regarding the new UK immigration system and how you need 70 points to be accepted.
How would someone retire to the UK ? Could they ? Would that be measured by the size of your bank account ? Could you access the NHS ? Private medical insurance would be prohibitively expensive I suspect.
I expect whatever barriers are erected by HMG will be reciprocated in Spain, Greece, France etc...
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Post by EspadaIII on Feb 20, 2020 21:07:42 GMT
If you have retired one assumes that you have an income without working. Some countries will accept you, but you may need private health insurance. Others will refuse but permit you to remain long term without permanent rights. You get ill?; you go home.
The NHS is pretty poor in not charging overseas visitors anyway; I don't think Brexit will change that immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 21:21:56 GMT
My assumption is that anyone retiring had the ability to support themselves without relying on a state pension. However, the statement you get ill, you go home would indicate never having a settled status always having to maintain a presence wherever home was prior to retirement.
In the grand scheme of Brexit neither here nor there, could be an issue for Brits planning on relocating abroad for their twilight years and having to leave a light on in Britain should they get ill though.
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Post by Rob on Feb 21, 2020 1:04:05 GMT
Ignoring brexit, what scenarios are there now that mean a UK citizen living in the EU wants to come back and needs NHS treatment and is stopped from getting treatment? Would it be because you're not currently paying tax/NI?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 6:42:30 GMT
Would they be stopped from receiving treatment ? Is the system sophisticated enough to view/access IR records? Given your NI number is not unique then some form of photo ID would be required to match name, DoB and NI # as an initial check.
Given not everyone drives and not everyone travels internationally would some form of ID card be required to ensure compliance ? 😈
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Post by bromptonaut on Feb 21, 2020 10:48:49 GMT
Would they be stopped from receiving treatment ? Is the system sophisticated enough to view/access IR records? Given your NI number is not unique then some form of photo ID would be required to match name, DoB and NI # as an initial check. Given not everyone drives and not everyone travels internationally would some form of ID card be required to ensure compliance ? 😈 Government guidance here: www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-nhs-when-you-return-to-live-in-the-ukBasically, provided you can show residence then you're OK. The bar for proof is set quite low; UK bank account and you're half way there. I suspect, in practice, white people with British surnames and accents will rarely be challenged even if they're straight off a plane from the Costa del Sol and lodging with their son/daughter. The test for benefits is a bit higher; you need to show habitual residence (HR). There's no defined test for this, it's a question of fact in each case. Three months is often regarded as a benchmark but it could be more or less.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:43:16 GMT
Just to be clear this is not about NHS access and people abusing any system.
I asked the question as it occurred to me the focus at the moment is on movement of people for work and I was pondering the question what about others, access and how that will work. I get the feeling at the moment it is all very knee-jerk reaction without a clearly thoughtout strategy. That could be completely wrong and information is being released on a need to know basis, just doesn't feel that way.
I read a comment elsewhere where someone raised the question why had no EU countries made any commitments wrt granting UK citizens access post Dec. 2020. My own view to that is Brexit is UK initiated, the UK Government are building barriers and I think everyone, not just the EU, are monitoring this and will reciprocate in kind with whatever barriers are erected.
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