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Post by WDB on Oct 16, 2019 6:46:27 GMT
Is anyone else finding this acutely uncomfortable? Not the unnecessary death of a young man, of course, but what looks like exploitation of his family.
There is clearly a case for the police, the CPS and the Foreign Office to pursue. What troubles me is the way that someone — presumably not the parents themselves — has put his parents at the centre of attention. Their distress is entirely natural, but it’s precisely why they ought to step aside and leave it to the authorities — and I don’t mean Donald Trump. Apart from anything else, the constant media attention on the suspect risks her being returned to the UK only for her case to be dismissed on the grounds of prejudicial media coverage.
What I’ve not seen is who is doing the exploiting. I imagine it’s one of the usual tabloid suspects. But I wish they’d stop and let the police do their job.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 11:27:12 GMT
I feel for both sides. She cannot put her side to the press without prejudicing her legal position. In the meantime, the press are all over it and Trump didn't really help.
The British Government should make a statement and tell the press to stay away from it until the legal position has been resolved.
Very sad but I think we have all been there (on the wrong side of the road) and thank god never hit anyone.
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Post by Alanović on Oct 16, 2019 11:36:32 GMT
Well as you would probably expect from someone with my family history, the mere fact that this woman won't face up to what's happened is enough to convict her of appalling lack of humanity in my eyes.
Hit and run is the expression I believe. Whether or not she's fully responsible for this tragedy is not within the bounds of my knowledge, but I do know this - I deplore her for not cooperating fully with any investigation. Someone died here FFS, and they've got a family grieving. Disgusting behaviour.
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Post by WDB on Oct 16, 2019 16:25:10 GMT
I’ve not seen any report that she left the scene. Leaving the country is a different matter, of course.
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Post by bromptonaut on Oct 21, 2019 13:04:16 GMT
I’ve not seen any report that she left the scene. Leaving the country is a different matter, of course. This is of course local to me though not so near that I'm at risk knowing or knowing of the Dunn family. Clearly a tragedy for all concerned. She didn't run from the scene but presumably had 'advice' from her husband's managers and was able to leave the country. Did she do so on a commercial flight or on one of the US Air Force transports that still shuttle staff and stuff around their forces in Europe? Was her passport impounded at all? I cannot honestly see the US forcing her to come back here; they're much less keen on extraditing outwards than inwards. Although she's reported to have driven off from Croughton's main gate on wrong side I wonder if that's full story. A 19yo on a motorbike is astonishingly vulnerable to his own mistakes as well as those of others. Not trying to 'victim blame' but one has to be realistic. A civil case might normally expose the facts but I suspect the USAF or it's insurers will settle in full without contest. Damages to a parent in cases like this are not going to be of magnitude they might have been if Harry Dunn had dependants. |
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Post by bromptonaut on Oct 21, 2019 13:34:55 GMT
Looking at today's business in parliament I see there's a statement due on Harry Dunn case. Probably nothing new but let's see....
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Post by bromptonaut on Oct 22, 2019 9:26:21 GMT
So Dominic Raab made a statement to Commons yesterday. F&CO tried to stop her leaving but could not due claim of diplomatic immunity. Northants Plod were told of this but took their time passing info to Dunn family. Plod now going out to US to interview Mrs Sacolas which is confusing Dunn family who thought investigation was complete.
CWOT if she answers every question with 'no comment'.
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Post by bromptonaut on Nov 7, 2019 14:20:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 16:45:22 GMT
Certainly an expert in trauma medicine would be asked to opine on the question of whether death would have been avoided had the ambulance arrived within the expected timescale.
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Post by Rob on Nov 7, 2019 19:08:52 GMT
I would imagine the delay in the ambulance was a factor in the sad outcome.
In the circumstances and due to location you'd have thought a medic from the airbase might have been summoned.
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Post by bromptonaut on Nov 10, 2019 14:37:33 GMT
I would imagine the delay in the ambulance was a factor in the sad outcome. In the circumstances and due to location you'd have thought a medic from the airbase might have been summoned. Croughton's a big site but not a flying base; interesting question as to how much infrastructure it has. |
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Post by bromptonaut on Jan 24, 2020 18:10:16 GMT
Listening to the family's spokesman on the radio this morning left me uneasy. Something about his grasp on reality.
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Post by Hofmeister on Jan 24, 2020 22:01:48 GMT
Listening to the family's spokesman on the radio this morning left me uneasy. Something about his grasp on reality. Not sure what the family want, vengeance and retribution is not going to bring him back, tho they seem to think it will. |
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Post by Rob on Jan 24, 2020 22:21:56 GMT
I wonder if they are after vengeance more than justice. Still not going to help them is it.
There was footage used on TV the other day showing a 4x4 on the wrong side of the road. But the road was fairly narrow and did not have a centre line. Indeed I'd say it was not wide enough for two cars to easily pass. If I was the 4x4 driver I'd do some defensive driving and move over to the wrong side of the road to see further ahead with the option then to move back across or stop.
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