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Post by WDB on Aug 21, 2017 8:25:49 GMT
cars.mercedes-benz.co.uk/products/diesel_summit_comms/diesel_summit_comms.html£2,000 off a Mercedes if you have a Euro 3 or4 diesel to trade in. Ostentatious good citizenship, a move to help shift unsold diesel stock (my BMW dealer told me they have a huge waiting list for petrol 5s because the factory has overbuilt on RHD diesels, and MB may have a similar problem - and fewer petrol alternatives) or a genuine attempt to address an environmental problem?
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Post by tyrednexited on Aug 21, 2017 9:11:25 GMT
cars.mercedes-benz.co.uk/products/diesel_summit_comms/diesel_summit_comms.html£2,000 off a Mercedes if you have a Euro 3 or4 diesel to trade in. Ostentatious good citizenship, a move to help shift unsold diesel stock (my BMW dealer told me they have a huge waiting list for petrol 5s because the factory has overbuilt on RHD diesels, and MB may have a similar problem - and fewer petrol alternatives) or a genuine attempt to address an environmental problem? I have to say that I'm feeling very comfortable in my decision to go with petrol in the X1. There weren't many petrol versions around when I bought (and even less withe the factory spare wheel). It looks very much like the maths will just about work out, with the roughly £1000 advantage of the like-for-like petrol vs diesel compensating for the fuel consumption. A fast 350 mile return run to Northumberland a couple of weeks ago returned 43+mpg on the trip, with only half of it being the A1, the rest of it somewhat more challenging.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:03:17 GMT
That's a bit mean from Mercedes. In Germany: - VW are offering up to 10,000€ for your old Euro 1 to 4 diesel against a new VW
- Ford up to 8,000€ + 5 year guarantee
- BMW is 6000€ but the new car has to be 130g/km or less under the new NEDC testing and the old car Euro 1 to 4
Mercedes are not offering anything at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:38:16 GMT
Yeah. 2 grand off a new Mercedes? Pffffft.
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Post by WDB on Aug 22, 2017 8:50:48 GMT
The Mercedes offer was a footnote to a BBC news item this morning about a similar offer from Ford, also £2,000. The details vary, though - as with a similar offer from BMW - in terms of what your new vehicle has to be. Mercedes seems to have the broadest range on offer - at the highest price, of course.
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Post by Avant on Aug 22, 2017 12:16:32 GMT
"I have to say that I'm feeling very comfortable in my decision to go with petrol in the X1."
I've always thought that was a good move on your part, T & E. I'd probably have gone for a petrol X1 myself but they were too new on the market when I was looking (January 2016) and there was hardly any discount to be had, whereas I got £7,000 off the V60.
Up to now I've intended to keep the V60 long-term, and as it's only a bit over a year old, I'll certainly keep it for another year at least. But long-term, (a) it's a diesel - you couldn't get a petrol V60 to test-drive - , and (b) its stodgy handling is shown up not only by my 125i convertible, as I would expect, but also by SWMBO's delightful A1, which I didn't expect, nor that the petrol Audi would be more economical than the diesel Volvo.
If you see this, T & E, is your X1 an automnatic, and if so, does it blunt the performance to any extent? 43 mpg sounds excellent.
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Post by WDB on Aug 22, 2017 12:31:37 GMT
The X1 has a nice interior too, and a surprising amount of space for people; we clambered on one the day I tried the 540i and I reckon four of me could get comfortable in one. Only the boot lets it down, but that's understandable in a shortish car. I imagine it drives better than your typical sitty-uppy mummy wagon too; even its FWD 220i Gran Tourer sister wasn't too bad in that respect.
I am considering an alternative future including an X1. It might even do as a family bus, if we concede the need for a roofbox once a year.
Still think I'd prefer Sven's 540i, though.
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Post by tyrednexited on Aug 22, 2017 17:36:06 GMT
"I have to say that I'm feeling very comfortable in my decision to go with petrol in the X1." I've always thought that was a good move on your part, T & E. I'd probably have gone for a petrol X1 myself but they were too new on the market when I was looking (January 2016) and there was hardly any discount to be had, whereas I got £7,000 off the V60. Up to now I've intended to keep the V60 long-term, and as it's only a bit over a year old, I'll certainly keep it for another year at least. But long-term, (a) it's a diesel - you couldn't get a petrol V60 to test-drive - , and (b) its stodgy handling is shown up not only by my 125i convertible, as I would expect, but also by SWMBO's delightful A1, which I didn't expect, nor that the petrol Audi would be more economical than the diesel Volvo. If you see this, T & E, is your X1 an automnatic, and if so, does it blunt the performance to any extent? 43 mpg sounds excellent. Mine's an Xdrive 2.0i X-line. The petrol only comes as 4WD and auto. The auto has three modes, ECO, Comfort and Sport. ECO definitely "blunts" things somewhat, Comfort is generally fine for me, and the car will "pick up its skirts" pretty well in that, Sport adds a bit more. I think the handling perception is helped by the "BMW balance", with the weight on this car being pretty well on the 50/50 F/R BMW boast about (and also indubitably helped by the 4WD). If you want to do things yourself, then can change manually via the gear stirrer or flappy paddles (bot, AFAIK, standard). I have the Sports seats in mine (not specified, but on the stock car I was offered) which work rather better for me than the standard (particularly for longer legs). Fuel Consumption around town is somewhat lower (mid to upper 30s), but as I've said before, whilst I like to cruise at speed limits, I'm not heavy footed in getting there, so YMMV. There are always certain things that can be improved, but most of the car I'm very happy with - the main area of criticism is that road (tyre) noise is somewhat higher than desirable on poor surfaces (exacerbated by a quiet engine), but the radio drowns that, it was a highlighted issue in reviews, and I bought having tested and deciding it was acceptable. Frankly, the boot is really only compromised by the (optional) spare. Without it, the space it would normally occupy enlarges the boot quite a lot - I'd prefer the (space-saver) tyre on balance.
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