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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:33:22 GMT
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Post by Avant on Aug 7, 2017 9:52:59 GMT
A Freudian silp? "1978 Bodge Spacevan".
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Post by commerdriver on Aug 7, 2017 10:25:52 GMT
As a spares vehicle it will find somebody possibly. Unlike VWs of a similar vintage, they will almost never be worth a serious restoration in terms of the increased value. We restored ours partly as a sentimental value project. Personally I don't think the Dodge front was as good looking as the original Commer one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:00:40 GMT
Funny, isn't it. Many attempts have been made at launching US car brands here, and they've all failed, with the exception of Jeep. Chrysler has been tried twice and bombed. Dodge also twice with the same result. Chevrolet, gone. Cadillac, joke. There's Ford of course but they invested so heavily in European design and production that it doesn't really count as an American brand any more.
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Post by Hofmeister on Aug 7, 2017 13:46:44 GMT
There's Ford of course but they invested so heavily in European design and production that it doesn't really count as an American brand any more. Quite the opposite. Post war, Ford UK was an autonomous brand, with its own design, management, manufacturing, almost entirely british, until the mid 60s. Then Ford became european, again european autonomous with its own management and design. Ford was one of the first to the table with world car designs, and now Ford Europe is american led, management and design. So in answer Ford Europe is now more of an American brand than its ever been in its past. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 13:56:07 GMT
There's Ford of course but they invested so heavily in European design and production that it doesn't really count as an American brand any more. Quite the opposite. Post war, Ford UK was an autonomous brand, with its own design, management, manufacturing, almost entirely british, until the mid 60s. Then Ford became european, again european autonomous with its own management and design. Ford was one of the first to the table with world car designs, and now Ford Europe is american led, management and design. So in answer Ford Europe is now more of an American brand than its ever been in its past. Yes fair enough, maybe it's more of an American led company, but I was speaking in terms of brand perception. It's not seen as an American brand here at all despite what you say, unlike Chrysler or Dodge. IMHO. |
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Post by Avant on Aug 7, 2017 23:15:22 GMT
Somehow I don't see the Ford 8 / Anglia / Popular as a 'world car'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 1:43:14 GMT
I think that the perception of Ford in the UK is different because by and large Ford has never been anything other than Ford. GM has been Vauxhall and Opel and stuff etc. etc. Whereas mostly Ford has just been Ford.
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Post by Hofmeister on Aug 8, 2017 7:01:34 GMT
Somehow I don't see the Ford 8 / Anglia / Popular as a 'world car'. Nor do I, Nor did Ford when they were built, nor did I say that. |
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