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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
A thread on HJ has got me thinking.
Many models get produced, some sell very well, others poorly, but the reasons are not always down to the features of the cars but the way car purchasing is done in the UK. As an example, (and taken from the HJ forum), the Skoda Yeti is about to be binned and not replaced. It apparently has a 'cult following' which Skoda seem determined to ignore. For its type I think I see a reasonable number around, but there were other cars which did not sell that well, but after they ceased production (or at least new sales in the UK), their advantages were spotted and they became in demand.
I can think of the Yaris Verso which was frequently recommended by HJ. Honda did a small Civic Shuttle before the MPV; in fact my mother had the Mk1 and Mk2 versions, which were superb cars, and in some respects these unsung heroes have something in common; they were small externally, spacious internally, easy to access, good visibility and perfect for the tootling around town that most people use cars for.
No one mourns the Morris Marina or Hillman Hunter, but what cars do you remember as being slow sellers, which later people came to realise had features they really appreciated?
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Post by Rob on Jul 30, 2017 19:23:36 GMT
The Yeti was always popular. The original had marmite looks with the front end and the revised model was better in my opinion.
The replacement will be a lot bigger, i.e. SEAT Ateca/VW Tiguan sized. VW group probably don't care.
EDIT: I'm surprised the MQB A0 SUVs are bigger than the Yeti. The Yeti was based off the same chassis as a previous model Golf. And yet the SEAT Arona and Skoda Karoq are bigger. Still a car called Yeti for some would put you off. Skoda has settled on words starting K for SUVs it seems.
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Post by Hofmeister on Jul 30, 2017 19:29:40 GMT
The Yeti was always popular. The original had marmite looks with the front end and the revised model was better in my opinion. The replacement will be a lot bigger, i.e. SEAT Ateca/VW Tiguan sized. VW group probably don't care. EDIT: I'm surprised the MQB A0 SUVs are bigger than the Yeti. The Yeti was based off the same chassis as a previous model Golf. And yet the SEAT Arona and Skoda Karoq are bigger. Still a car called Yeti for some would put you off. Skoda has settled on words starting K for SUVs it seems. The Yeti is too small, with a stupid boot
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Post by Hofmeister on Jul 30, 2017 19:32:31 GMT
A thread on HJ has got me thinking. I can think of the Yaris Verso which was frequently recommended by HJ. The Yaris Verso was a stupidly stupid car that never really offered any more space inside other than that over your head, which was never used or useful and only achieved by making the thing look pig ugly.
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Post by Humph on Jul 30, 2017 20:02:51 GMT
Alfa Romeo Brera. So pretty you'd happily sleep with it.
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Post by Avant on Jul 30, 2017 22:43:11 GMT
There's usually some reason why a model didn't sell well. The Yaris Verso had looks that only its mother could love: the Avensis Verso looked better, but I seem to remember that it didn't offer enough over and above the more popular Corolla Verso.
There are often nostalgic comments about the Honda FRV on HJ: this had a 3 + 3 seating arrangemnet. It was more reliable and less ugly than the similarly-configured Fiat Multipla, but neither sold well. We had a 4 children (and unlike Humph, weer very happy with our Espace) - but one thing we wouldn't have wanted was one bambino moaning 'Are we nearly there' in the driver's left ear.
There was a bigger Honda Shuttle after the Civic-based one - called the Odyssey in some markets, I'm not sure why not here. Again I've seen nostalgic comments about this: we looked at one once but it was way too expensive.
The Ford Puma could be another unsung hero: I wonder if the problem here was that the sort of people who buy coupes didn't want anything with the same badge as a repmobile. So invent a posh badge.... it worked for Audi and Lexus, but not for Xedos (another unsung hero) or so far for Infiniti (just unsung).
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Post by Rob on Jul 30, 2017 23:19:50 GMT
>> So invent a posh badge.... it worked for Audi and Lexus
Explain how VW invented the Audi badge.... I thought VW and Audi 'merged'. I agree that today the VW group (was VAG but the Porsche merger changed that) has brands which include VW, Audi, SEAT, Skoda Auto, Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini, VW commercial, Scania AB, Ducati, MAN SE, etc.
Lexus on the other hand is also a brand name of Toyota. But at least Audi existed before VW took them over.... Audi's history is interesting in itself and involves mergers. I wonder when we'll see VW use Horsch :-) You all probably know Audi that we all know came about from four mergers hence the four rings. But Horsch founded Audiwerke because he could not make use of Horsch... And Audi derived from Latin is similar to the meaning of Horsch.
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