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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 18:12:12 GMT
Everybody is devastated after this latest attack, declaring solidarity, making emotional gestures etc. etc.
After the attacks on the underground in London the reaction was quite different;
1) Everybody was down the pub all over London by 12:00 noon. 2) Several Londoners interviewed voice the sentiment (and in the case of one old lady the words) "f*** 'em". 3) London functioned as normal the next morning. 4) The media lost interest very quickly
Given that terrorist organisations wish to cause publicity, terror and disruption and given that the individuals want to be famous and seen as powerful; One could argue that the outpourings of emotion about repeated attacks in France are a major part of what assures that there will be a next one.
One could also argue that public grief over terrorist acts is becoming fashionable, as quickly as terrorist attacks are becoming socially acceptable.
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Post by Hofmeister on Jul 15, 2016 18:26:01 GMT
You have to take into account several factors here.
London is used to it. The IRA was blowing the place up regularly since the very early 70's ( a mere 30 years after the Germans had been blowing the place up ,in fact there were still "bomb" sites to be found in various parts of East London) Hence the "blitz" spirit was real and never got watered down.
This Nice attack is probably the most terrifying one thats ever taken place. Why? because it does not involve bombs or bullets or even hijacked planes, but instead is misuse of an everyday object we all see around us all the time. Something faintly dangerous but something we have learned to cope with. Suddenly every crowded pavement and every lorry is potential deliberate carnage. It cant be defended against.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 18:32:33 GMT
I take your point as to why, but the fact remains that all this emotional outpouring and cries for vengeance are exactly what the terrorists want.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 18:38:13 GMT
Not sure what you can do about this Islamic based terror. No point trying to eliminate all Muslims from Europe. Better education is needed in the poorer areas, removal of radicalisation material from the Internet (especially Facebook), getting to grips with those who celebrate the deaths of innocent people (e.g. The people of Gaza and Ramallah) - Facebook again - and ceasing all international aid into those countries who don't assist us, and denying any rights of entry from those countries into Europe.
Finally an understanding that this is life. ....people die in horrible ways. It was ever thus.
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Post by Hofmeister on Jul 15, 2016 20:39:12 GMT
France has unique problems with their citizens form North Africa. There is little inclusion for them in mainstream French life, they are shoved into enclaves away from city centres, they do not go to multicultural schools, there is little career prospects for them. They are also constantly reminded they are from French colonies, and there is a good chance that not that many generations ago an elderly family member was persecuted by the French colonial powers.
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