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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 10:36:46 GMT
I spend far too much time on my own in the car. After you've exhausted the radio channels and your music playlists and it gets to times of day or night when the phone calls stop, you have to keep the brain active somehow.
Yesterday for example, I was still driving home late in the evening with nigh on 500 miles showing on the trip reading since I'd reset it that morning.
Randomly, I started doing a bit of mental arithmetic. Fiddling with the readouts on the dash, I discovered that the 42000 miles the car has done so far have required 1200 hours of driving. That giving an average speed of 35 mph.
In in that same 13 months it has cost me £4836 in tax and approximately £650 in private fuel. Being a company car, those are the only significant personal costs of using it and total just shy of £5500.
Divide that then by the 1200 hours and it costs me just short of £4.60 an hour to sit there. Which sounded like quite a lot.
But then I started to think about my wife's car. It (probably) has lost about £2000 a year in depreciation while she's had it, okay, that might not be accurate but it'll do. Then there's her fuel at approx £1200 a year, and tax at £180, plus servicing etc at £350, and I chucked in £100 for tyres. £300 or so for insurance and you get a rough annual cost of £3800.
She does about 8000 miles year at most and let's assume she's also averaged 35 mph, so roughly 230 hours of use.
Her car therefore costs around £16.50 per hour of use !
I thought that was quite interesting. Not to say a bit scary.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 11:04:55 GMT
You weren't responsible for the switch from representing depreciation from real £s to % were you ? You're saying above your car costs just over a quarter of what your wife's does per hour using different parameters ignoring the £5500 vs £3800 real costs.
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 11:06:38 GMT
It'd need someone far better at sums than me to get it right but, yes, I think so.
Edit - what I was trying to establish was how much it costs me/her per hour to drive the different cars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 11:46:08 GMT
The more miles you drive, the cheaper per mile and per hour it will be. A car sitting there is simply losing money without working for its keep.
Your company car costs exclude the really big costs of depreciation, insurance and finance. All those are included in Humphess's car costs. Company car tax is modest compared to these costs, especially for your mileage.
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 11:56:38 GMT
I've kind of got there too. Wonder if they'd stump for a Panamera shooting brake next time...? 🤔
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 28, 2017 11:58:47 GMT
....it's an extremely odd basis for comparison, to say the least.
Oops, as you were.
(It's actually so flawed, I gave up trying to critique it - it could be one of my business cases ;-) )
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 12:09:09 GMT
....it's an extremely odd basis for comparison, to say the least. Oops, as you were. Is it though? If you're going to pay a lot for something, then isn't it better to pay a lot for something you use a lot, and try to pay as little as you can for something you don't? I'll run it by her tonight and explain that she really should be driving a twenty year old Micra to rebalance things... 😉
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 28, 2017 12:20:40 GMT
....it's an extremely odd basis for comparison, to say the least. Oops, as you were. Is it though? If you're going to pay a lot for something, then isn't it better to pay a lot for something you use a lot, and try to pay as little as you can for something you don't? I'll run it by her tonight and explain that she really should be driving a twenty year old Micra to rebalance things... 😉 .......Man maths..... ......beware, she may reverse the argument........ ;-) (What you need is one of these.....)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 12:48:40 GMT
I'll run it by her tonight and explain that she really should be driving a twenty year old Micra to rebalance things... 😉 Go for it! You'll probably end up with a Westfield or similar. It worked for me 😁
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 13:00:04 GMT
Anyway, if you can be bothered, do the cost per hours of usage calculation on your own cars. Might make taxis look cheap!
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 28, 2017 15:11:23 GMT
Might make taxis look cheap! ......aaah; that's why the Merc looks cheap.........
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 15:18:24 GMT
Bet the camper van thingy looks good on that analysis? If you count the hours spent sleeping in it anyway and the other ones spent playing Scrabble in the rain or whatever it is one does in them.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 28, 2017 16:08:05 GMT
Bet the camper van thingy looks good on that analysis? If you count the hours spent sleeping in it anyway and the other ones spent playing Scrabble in the rain or whatever it is one does in them. ....the sleeping hours add up; Don't do a lot of sitting in it unless the weather is really bad, though. We had last (long) weekend in Otley (diverted from deeper in the Dales due to a combination of sorting out the lad's prang, and the rapidly deteriorating weather forecast). Saturday was spent walking to Ilkley (despite a breeze and a bit of damp), Sunday was a bike ride from Otley to Grassington and back (46 miles) along the back roads (which are far from flat). My knees are still revolting (as they say). ;-)
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Post by Humph on Jun 28, 2017 16:11:20 GMT
Yeah, Grassington is up quite a hill I want to remember? Still, you've got those cheaty leccy bikes to help I suppose?
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 28, 2017 16:18:13 GMT
Still, you've got those cheaty leccy bikes to help I suppose? That's because we ride uphill as well as downhill........ (They attracted a considerable amount more attention than usual, including a guy in a Landrover from the Bolton Abbey Estate who stopped as he passed, and then chatted about them for 15 minutes or so).
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