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Post by WDB on Jun 20, 2017 11:37:07 GMT
Might be even more out of focus by then. Will still be black, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 11:46:37 GMT
Bloody hell. And I thought I had a propensity to take things literally. Also, I'm not enormously keen to spend too much time finding adverts for vehicles photographed to the most exacting professional standards. Not that EXACT one then, but one very much like it, in 3 years time. Reckon £15k would be a decent rough estimate on value? I'd look for one with a light interior - exterior colour, as always, couldn't really give a stuff.
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Post by WDB on Jun 20, 2017 12:02:55 GMT
Check legs for signs of pulling, Vić. But blurred photos are bit like spelling mistakes: they may not prevent the information getting across but they do make me wonder what other corners the author may have cut.
Yes, I reckon you'd get one for £15,000 or a little more. That would have bought you an 18-month-old V70 D3 in 2012, and £16,000 bought us our 3-year-old E220, both approved used. I'm now looking at 2014 E and CLS wagons in the low 20s, which would have begun in the 40s, and I'd expect an expensive Volvo to depreciate rather faster than a Mercedes.
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Post by Humph on Jun 20, 2017 12:18:31 GMT
I like sunroofs. In fact I really like them. What's not to like about more fresh air and extra light? ( if you're not an abnormal size I suppose)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 12:42:14 GMT
Given the price of those cars, you would have thought that better photographs (lighter??).
But £45,000!! And plastic wood. Espadrille would divorce me if I bought that. Very little wood permitted in our cars and walnut is banned altogether.
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Post by WDB on Jun 20, 2017 13:06:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 13:11:17 GMT
I love that interior.
Can't get used to the CLS looks though, they look a bit daft and try-hard to me. Proper estate car please. I can fathom a three door shooting brake, a very elegant proposition. But no, can't be doing with CLSs.
(leg pull noted)
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Post by Avant on Jun 20, 2017 14:38:32 GMT
I agree. It looks strangely dumpy and down-at-heel at the back. I can't see what a CLS can do that the equivalent estate can't - not sure if that's the C-class or E-class.
Either way, if I were in the market for that size of wagon, the great advantage that Mercedes and BMW have over Volvo and Skoda is that I could have one with six cylinders. (And RWD, which you prefer.) There's also the XF Sportbrake, which might be good value nearly-new now that the new model is out - or maybe the sloping roof would mean too little headroom for the 6 ft Beestlings?
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Post by WDB on Jun 20, 2017 16:11:47 GMT
The CLS is certainly a bit of an oddball, and rumour has it that its forthcoming CLE successor will not have an estate (can't call it a shooting whatever) derivative. It is a longer (slightly) and lower-slung E, with a slightly sportier set-up that I'm hoping might suit the way I drive and we use the car. It's also a bit different: driving back from Crawley yesterday, I kept pace with a silver CLS saloon for a while but didn't see a single estate, and I like the idea of something not everybody has. I'd agree it's not conventionally handsome, as my S211 is. But the interior, even in black, is a cut above the regular E, and the all-important rear legroom is actually better. Load length behind the rear seat is similar; it just misses out on wardrobe-carrying capacity, which is not a top priority anyway. And if the 325d has to make way for something more first-wife friendly, it will be fun to have something a little distinctive to get about in. You should know by now that I like quirky cars anyway. I still half-fancy one of these (also available with six cylinders): usedcars.bmw.co.uk/5-Series/2.0TD-520d-SE-GT/Northampton/3490696-606323981-3497154.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 18:48:24 GMT
Not a bad price. I love light coloured interiors. So much better than black.
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Post by WDB on Jul 14, 2017 6:12:31 GMT
Local MB dealer got in touch this week with news of a very late (one of the last) CLS250 in silver with a black interior - same combination as we have today - and with the elusive memory seats. Not sure it's for us - I'm thinking our budget will extend to a newer car, and I certainly prefer the idea of a 350 - but it would be good to try a 250 for completeness, and it's an opportunity to get Mrs B1 inside to approve - or not.
It would also be an opportunity to replace the car in time for our holiday. While that would be great, it's a poor reason for rushing the change.
One thing: I actually prefer the interior of the pre-facelift CLS. 2015-onwards cars have a larger nav screen that doesn't fit the dashboard recess and is just plonked on the surface, where it looks a bit daft. It's not even that much more useful, as there's a lot of black space around the edges of the display.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 8:45:32 GMT
One thing: I actually prefer the interior of the pre-facelift CLS. 2015-onwards cars have a larger nav screen that doesn't fit the dashboard recess and is just plonked on the surface, where it looks a bit daft. It's not even that much more useful, as there's a lot of black space around the edges of the display. I agree. I really don't like cars with this 'look at me' iPad type screen plonked on the dash. The set up of in-dash touch screen as exemplified by my old S-Max (and although I hate to say it, the Evoque) are much near, less intrusive and harder to break. Even though the S-Max was designed before the E-class we all have, it is remarkable how the screen was far better integrated into the car and its systems. I find the E-class screen too small and the controller awkward. For SatNav work these days, I don't bother with it; its out of date, cannot deal with seven digit postcodes and lacks detail. Waze or Google maps on the phone are far superior.
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Post by WDB on Jul 14, 2017 11:54:51 GMT
But of a puzzle here. 2014 CLS250 seemed to have less rear kneeroom than the 2017 car I tried the other week. All I can think of is that this was an SE-spec car (according to the build sheet) rather than the AMG-line that is the only option now, and that it has different front seats that leave less room behind.
Mrs B1 did all the driving today, and the traffic precluded any acceleration testing, but my impression was the the 250 engine is quiet but audibly four-cylindered, and that that detracts slightly from the overall waftiness one hopes for in a car that once cost nearly fifty thousand of someone else's pounds. Given that 250s seem to be scarcely, if any, cheaper than 350s, I think I'll hold out for a V6. Too late to take it to France now, anyway.
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Post by WDB on Aug 15, 2017 14:29:44 GMT
OK, home again and looking in earnest again. Here's another one, but it's in Macclesfield, which is too far away. www.mercedes-benz.net/p/uk/en/used-cars/cls-350-d-shooting-brake-amg-line/05ba6c0384876311aed003ce28cb871aThe dealer group has a place in Solihull, though, which is reachable for me. Reckon I might persuade them to move it? It's in that bluish Diamond Silver, which I know divides opinion here but which I rather like. There's an S at the far end of my road in that colour and I reckon I could live with it. The grey interior probably works better with it than 'porcelain' in the last one I showed you. And it seems to have the shiny black trim I prefer to the swirly woodgrainy grey you see in black-upholstered cars.
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