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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 18:43:52 GMT
I know you lot think I like it.... But I really don't. Yes there likeable things about it superficially, which is why Espadrille likes it, but underneath it is poorly designed and poor value.
So in a few months we have think about its replacement. We might be permitted to continue the lease but assuming we don't.....
So she likes 'brands', dislikes Skoda and Dacias, wants to sit highish, automatic, fours doors and space in the boot for our small dog. Nothing bigger than the Evoque. I saw a new Peugeot 3008 today. That looked smart if no smaller. Audi Q2 is a possibility. If it's the same size as the Juke it would work. Mini Countryman,?. The perfect car is actually a Renault Captur. Perfect size, shape, performance and with the top model all the kit. It's a bit plasticky inside, but the one in the fleet seems to have stood up to the wear of young children. Anyone any thoughts about the Honda HRV and Toyota equivalent?
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Post by Humph on Apr 15, 2017 19:27:34 GMT
At that sort of level they're all pretty good you'd think. Friend has the Honda and likes it but he's not a car man really.
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Post by tyrednexited on Apr 15, 2017 20:26:10 GMT
...had a look at the HR-V when I ended up with the X1. Acres of space, but it didn't feel either special, or that it had a high driving position. Failed on a couple of other counts for me as well. The car I really wanted to like was the Mazda CX-3, which is gorgeous in the metallic red, and a very nice place to sit in. Top of the range is well equipped, but the mix of engines/transmissions/drivetrains are odd (I think the sales force got it wrong). Other than it being too short of space for a first (only) car, I really wanted one. .jpg) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 20:57:44 GMT
I also like the CX-3 but despite looking really good, SHE doesn't want one.
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Post by Humph on Apr 15, 2017 20:59:58 GMT
That Mazda is quite nice.
Edit - Oh...
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Post by Rob on Apr 15, 2017 21:47:17 GMT
Does it have to be a proper auto (as in TC) or will a dual clutch type do?
There's always the Tiguan and Ateca. But I'd prefer an F-Pace.
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Post by Avant on Apr 15, 2017 22:52:49 GMT
If Espadrille isn't keen on a Mazda she probably won't fancy a Honda or Toyota either. The HRV and the CHR look as if they have awful rear visibility - but then so has the Evoque, so she's presumably skilled enough at reversing for this not to be a problem.
The BMW 2-series Active Tourer is worth a look: it's only about 4.3 metres long and is more prestigious and less plasticky than a Renault or Peugeot. There's also the X1, but that's a bit bigger. I'd imagine that leasing deals might be better on a 2-series or Q2, or even a Mercedes B-class, than on a French car, as the Germans hold their value better.
I haven't driven a Q2, but I've sat in one and looked it over in the showroom, and it didn't strike me as having much more room for people and luggage than an A3: and you didn't sit all that much higher up either. A bit of a posemobile I thought, but it'll probably sell well.
Final thought - a VW Golf SV could be worth putting on a shortlist.
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Post by Rob on Apr 15, 2017 22:58:31 GMT
>> I haven't driven a Q2, but I've sat in one and looked it over in the showroom, and it didn't strike me as having much more room for people and luggage than an A3
It is based on the same MQB platform (probably the same floorpan variant) as the A3. The inside is straight from the A3.
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Post by dixinormus on Apr 16, 2017 0:13:23 GMT
The Q2 might be too new to offer competitive prices or discounts; the Q3 might be a better bet?
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Post by WDB on Apr 16, 2017 7:29:11 GMT
Because everyone's on holiday then?
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Post by tyrednexited on Apr 16, 2017 8:05:54 GMT
The BMW 2-series Active Tourer is worth a look: it's only about 4.3 metres long and is more prestigious and less plasticky than a Renault or Peugeot. There's also the X1, but that's a bit bigger. ...of course, I have an X1, which, almost a year on, still feels like "the right buy" (for me). A lot more space inside than the CX-3 already flagged, for not a great deal more in external dimensions. I had some specific requirements, however; including a decent petrol engine, and a spare wheel. The combination of these was available from the factory but apparently makes mine a pretty "rare" car (bought from BMW stock). I test-drove a diesel, however, and it was fine. Care is needed on spec because, though it is well equipped as standard, there's at least one (inexpensive) option pack that really ought to be standard, and includes cruise control. You also mention the 2-series Active Tourer - there's something about the styling and proportions of the 2-series that make it look "not quite right" to me. |
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Post by WDB on Apr 16, 2017 8:17:43 GMT
The 2 Tourer is nice enough. I've written here about the one I had for two days last summer. It lacks kneeroom in the back - but that's by my rather exacting standards, and even that gets better if you remove the silly seatback tray-tables. A car-conscious friend even bought one after I suggests he look at it as a successor to a Honda Jazz.
But I suspect it's not going to work as a vanity car like the Evoque. Yes, it's a BMW, but it majors in sensible shoes - rather like the 3GT, which I like very much. This makes it a good choice for someone who likes a well-designed car; less so for someone keen to make a statement.
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Post by Humph on Apr 16, 2017 9:06:32 GMT
Spare wheels are a good thing. :-(
The Qashqai at least has a space saver, the Merc has nothing, but the Aygo has a full sized spare. Although it is actually smaller than the spacesaver for the Nissan.
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Post by Hofmeister on Apr 16, 2017 9:48:59 GMT
The 2 Tourer is nice enough. I've written here about the one I had for two days last summer. It lacks kneeroom in the back - but that's by my rather exacting standards, and even that gets better if you remove the silly seatback tray-tables. A car-conscious friend even bought one after I suggests he look at it as a successor to a Honda Jazz. But I suspect it's not going to work as a vanity car like the Evoque. Yes, it's a BMW, but it majors in sensible shoes - rather like the 3GT, which I like very much. This makes it a good choice for someone who likes a well-designed car; less so for someone keen to make a statement. I wanted to like the 2 tourer, but its not big enough in the boot department, and a car has to have some looks and not offend the eye. The 2 fails that test by a considerable margin. |
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Post by Avant on Apr 16, 2017 17:08:44 GMT
I'd have suggested an X1 for Espadrille instead of the 2-series, but I'd thought it would be much bigger than the Evoque, which she doesn't want. But looking at the specifications in HJ's reviews section, I see that it's only 10 cm longer and hardly any wider.
Looks are subjective, but the X1 seems rather better proportioned than the 2-series. I'd have had one if it hadn't been such a new model when I was looking last year and therefore not heavily discounted as the V60 (with a similar list price) was.
Hurray - I see that after 100 posts I'm no longer a 'junior member'. No-one has ever explained why we have to have this irritating grading, where we're all supposed to be 'virtual' friends.
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