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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 13:22:12 GMT
Yeah, mine was the 120PS diesel, with plenty of torques too. Point I was making though is that I found the interior and overall quality far superior in the Tipo than the Pulsar. Pulsar felt naff and cheap in comparison. Strange. I much prefer the Sentra interior. Feels less low rent. I suppose it's why there are different makes... To keep us all happy.
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Post by Alanović on Apr 4, 2018 13:29:03 GMT
You piqued my interest, EIII, so I googled the Sentra. Looks more like a Primera sized saloon than a Pulsar with a boot. The interior is indeed way nicer than the Pulsar I drove. Looks like a class of car up from a Pulsar and Tipo too, so I'm no longer surprised at your preference.
This is why companied like Nissan are starting to pee me off. Not offering full size saloons and estates in the UK any more, same can go for FIAT actually. Just small cars and SUVs. Pah. Maybe it's more to do with the fashion-driven bovine British masses than the manufacturers themselves, but still. Pah.
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Post by tyrednexited on Apr 4, 2018 13:31:56 GMT
Maybe it's more to do with the fashion-driven bovine British masses than the manufacturers themselves, but still. Pah. ...no.....it's the EU's fault......
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Post by Humph on Apr 4, 2018 13:35:22 GMT
I think I read a rumour, that Ford were thinking of dropping the Mondeo because duh publik all want SUVs 😫
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Post by Alanović on Apr 4, 2018 13:39:15 GMT
Bloody hell.
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Post by Humph on Apr 4, 2018 13:40:44 GMT
I know, I thought it couldn't get much worse, but that would be beyond the pale.
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Post by WDB on Apr 4, 2018 13:55:25 GMT
Isn't this a bit like complaining when a local shop (for local people) closes? "Oh, we never actually went in, it was just nice to know it was there."
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Post by Alanović on Apr 4, 2018 14:00:32 GMT
Not really. I've bought a Mondeo before and might well do again. Besides, having an interest in the second hand market it's still annoying and a further contraction of the pool of vehicles I might like to buy in the future. It's why I turned to looking at SUVs when I was considering replacing the Merc as there just aren't that many big estate cars to choose from any more. I won't ever "want" an SUV, but I might end up having to have one. Pah.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 14:03:12 GMT
>>Isn't this a bit like complaining when a local shop (for local people) closes?
Or my friend when he closed is Village Free House and there were more names on the petition than he'd seen in the pub in a year. As he said, if everyone who signed the petition bought one drink a week, he wouldn't have to close.
I'm a bit surprised about Mondeo though, because we get the odd one down here and they are lovely looking cars these days. I'd have one. Except I drive 4WD/SUVs.
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Post by Humph on Apr 4, 2018 14:04:47 GMT
Isn't this a bit like complaining when a local shop (for local people) closes? "Oh, we never actually went in, it was just nice to know it was there." Well, yes, of course, but one does have to think of those who do want to use the local shop, y'know, the "others"... 😎
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 16:01:52 GMT
I will miss the middle range saloon. The only time I drive one is on holiday and I don't miss a tailgate at all but I do miss a rear wiper.
In the UK I will probably always drive an estate because I like the flexibility, the ability to throw the dog/rubbish/surveying stuff in the boot and not worry. I suppose without the dog and with a rear wiper I could cope with a saloon. Certainly a little quieter than hatches or estates.
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Post by WDB on Apr 4, 2018 16:16:59 GMT
...a saloon. Certainly a little quieter than hatches or estates. Really? A lot of people say this but I can't say I've ever noticed. Our two Mercedes estates have been quiet (the current one very quiet) and I've never stepped into an E220 or E350 taxi to the airport and thought, wow, this is nicer than mine. Is this a generational thing? Or just folklore? I remember brochures in the 1970s boasting of estates that were as refined as a saloon, so I suspect there's a marketing-made myth of the noisy estate, to which the Boggis AR5E is the blessed exception. I've had, and enjoyed, two saloons, but I never felt their salooniness contributed anything to the dynamic experience.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 20:37:48 GMT
Just my experience. Difference is modest in cars like ours, but in smaller, lighter cars there is a subtle rumble from the back, less noticeable from saloons.
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Post by Rob on Apr 4, 2018 21:46:39 GMT
A saloon with a rear bulkhead is always going to offer better isolation from the boot area and outside. Probably a bit more structural rigidity in theory. On old generation cars, it probably made a much bigger difference. Modern chassis being a lot stronger.
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Post by Avant on Apr 4, 2018 22:34:53 GMT
Like you, Espada, I need the flexibility of 5 doors here at home (carefully avoiding the estate / Sitty Uppy argument), but what we need when hiring a car at a foreign airport is just lots of space for suitcases that can't be seen from outside. That's the one occasion when a saloon is perfect.
We used to go often to South Africa, where it was usually rather gutless Toyota Corolla saloons; the best car we hired there was a 1.6 petrol VW Polo saloon (which I think was sold here for a time as the SEAT Cordoba). A huge boot and lots of poke from the engine.
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