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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 11:26:19 GMT
Here's the open fireplace in my living room:
I'm thinking of putting a small multifuel stove (5kw) on the hearth (like this: www.gr8fires.co.uk/gbs-mariner-4-kw-multi-fuel-stove?gclid=CjwKEAiAvZTCBRDvnoOaoa2j3xISJABxPjN9nSY_cmYWrUnNNHp1nVtrFNyc64Ga1i463rPl0TQaPRoCgpvw_wcB), with a pipe going up the concrete-lined chimney. Slight snag is the back plate of the fireplace bulges out above the existing fire basket, but below the brick built outer edge of the surround, creating a potential dog leg for the flue pipe, and the opening to the chimney is also not plum above the fire basket but offset to the left.
if I stick a stove in there, with a dog-leg/offset pipe going up the chimney (assuming I can get one which fits the gap, is that going to be sufficient to get the smoke/fumes away up the chimney?
Seems straight forward at first glance, what am I missing? I already use the fireplace as you can see and it has good draw on it.
I have hoovered and cleaned the fireplace since the photo was taken before any stick comes my way for that crime... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 11:41:06 GMT
The flue is your problem. Those things burn damned hot, much hotter than a normal fire. They are pretty efficient at setting fire to old chimneys.
The flue may well need to go all the way up. You need to ask someone considerably more expert than me.
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Post by Humph on Dec 6, 2016 14:51:10 GMT
Be fine I should think. What could possibly go wrong? 🤕
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:18:57 GMT
[clarkson]Yeeeeeeeeesssssssss[/clarkson]
I would of course be best advised to get an expert in to advise, and then be presented with an estimate of £2500 for a job I reckon I could do myself for under £500. Seeing as we've all had enough of experts, I reckon I'll just crack on. Right? How much more can there be to it in reality than stick stove on hearth, attach pipe to top so that it goes up chimney, sit back and enjoy? Flue liners are for situations with porous chimneys, to stop fumes leaking in to rooms through brickwork. I've got a concrete lined chimney which doesn't leak (CO detector in the house is testament to this).
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Post by crankcase on Dec 6, 2016 15:53:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 16:01:21 GMT
Meh. Remove the stove if I ever sell the house.
It's a fire, in an existing fire place, meant for fires.
I have just twigged the need for a "register plate" though, without which the chimney can't "suck" on the fire and draw.
Mebbe open fires are fine after all.
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Post by crankcase on Dec 6, 2016 16:05:55 GMT
Wouldn't it be a bit of a bugger if the house burned down and the insurance company said "on yer way son"?
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 6, 2016 16:07:19 GMT
Mebbe open fires are fine after all. ....certainly are. Gives you somewhere to spit.......... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 16:12:12 GMT
Wouldn't it be a bit of a bugger if the house burned down and the insurance company said "on yer way son"? Now you may have something of a point there.
Still, getting building regs approval seems to be about £180, so my £500 might have to stretch a bit to (grudgingly) include that but I'd still suspect an expert install quote of about £2500 all in.
Mind you the wife works for an insurance company's IT department, so, ahem.....
House burning down not a massive risk as it's only for feature use in evenings when slobbed out in the living room. Always attended. But would be nice to get some proper heat out of a stove as the open fire doesn't really deliver on this score.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 16:16:32 GMT
You have to make sure that the chimney is cleaned.
I often get estimates for that cost thousands, and then often do it myself for 00s. Still good to have something to work to I think,
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Post by crankcase on Dec 6, 2016 16:30:43 GMT
Lucky you. Just looked at the costs for me, if I were doing that job. Cambridge would want £180 as a plan charge, £198 for the notification charge and £190 for the "additional" charge, so £568 before you start.
I recall when we put in an extension of one room in 2010, it was around £800 in fees before doing anything at all.
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Post by Hofmeister on Dec 6, 2016 17:26:03 GMT
I've got a concrete lined chimney Which will crack in a heartbeat when you get your first log fire on the draw. If you cant afford to get the thing installed, you cant afford the fire. (this is from the bloke who has predicted with uncanny accuracy the fate of each of your cars) Open fires, with a nice basket, are ideal for occasional heat and ambience |
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Post by Humph on Dec 6, 2016 17:44:44 GMT
Can't really say why, but I just feel that if you install it yourself, it'll probably lean to one side...😄
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 9:36:39 GMT
Appreciate the advice Nogbad, but there's a difference between not being able to afford and not wanting to spend unnecessarily when I could do the job myself and derive a measure of satisfaction from it at the same time. I'd like to think I can do this myself, sadly I am probably deluded but it's worth investigating don't you think? If it turns out a chimney liner is advisable for the whole run, I wouldn't do that myself. Not good with heights and it means getting up on the roof.
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