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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 20:25:02 GMT
Saint or Sinner?
The BBC said tonight that despite being a dictator known for throwing enemies into prison, he created great education and healthcare systems. Nogbad can comment on the health care, but (assuming I am right and the general population was not permitted to leave the island), what is the point of educating your population, if they are not permitted to travel overseas to use it, benefit from it and transmit it to others?
I am not saying the previous Batista regime were any good, but it seems to have been a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire.
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Post by WDB on Nov 27, 2016 21:30:33 GMT
Give it ten years and we may be asking ourselves the same question.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 27, 2016 22:01:42 GMT
Castro wanted to make overtures to the USA after the corrupt and mafia controlled Batista regime were overthrown, (you cant conceive how bad and corrupt they were) but he was snubbed, which drove him into the arms of the Soviet union. I was lucky enough to spend a day with two local Cubans who showed me the city, warts and all. They were proud of the revolution, proud of their ability to survive despite the Yanks trying to starve them into submission, but because of their education they were not blind or stupid and realise that castro's intransigence (especially after the fall of the soviet union) was foolish. At the end of the day they are proud happy resourceful friendly very well educated people. and that would not have happened under the old regime. Clearly much political capital was made of the USA embargo who provided a perfect excuse to cover up the inevitable failings of a communist economy. Now, under Raul, this has been partially dismantled and people are now allowed to operate commercially outside state control, and their high level of education will ensure they make a damn good job of it.
I was lucky enough to see and use the healthcare system, the Xray machine was more modern than the one at my local A&E and the waiting times far less. They wanted to and were willing to operate there and then to pin the hip. Medically I would have been happy for them to do it, but logistically it was a bad place and time.
The USA shares as much responsibility for what happened in Cuba as Castro does. Given Castro or Trump, I know what I would choose, and it wouldn't start with T
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 22:12:05 GMT
Actually, if you think about it, it begins with a 'c' either way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 22:26:34 GMT
In Spanish, but I guess it's obvious. From a Cuban friend of mine. Fidel Castro sobrevivió 11 presidentes de los Estados Unidos: -Eisenhower -Kennedy -Johnson -Nixon -Ford -Carter -Reagan -Bush -Clinton -G W Bush -Obama ¡Pero no soportó 15 días a Trump!😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 22:58:46 GMT
There are rumours that Fidel died after falling down the steps at Hemingway's favourite bar.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 27, 2016 23:07:10 GMT
There are rumours that Fidel died after falling down the steps at Hemingway's favourite bar. I must have tripped over the bugger
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 23:40:55 GMT
We'll be there on Tuesday. I'll apologise on your behalf.
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