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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 19, 2016 9:30:22 GMT
I see it has about 20 000 seeds on the pirate sites. Impressive. ...I think I'll give it a miss.....
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 19, 2016 10:10:41 GMT
I can see how cinematography and the opening sequence means more money spent. And they got the three hyper cars TG couldn't.... but where has the extra money gone per episode? They have taken the show global. Where as the BBC made a show locally for local consumption and then sold it, or franchised it round the world, Amazon have made it from a global stance from the off. Hence hosting from different countries round the world, and this costs megabucks. Rewards of course are mega mega bucks. This is probably the first show ever that has been made from a global perspective for a global audience, from a single source global broadcaster, the stuff of James Bond Super villain aka Tomorrow Never Dies. Its what Rupert Murdoch has been trying to do but failed.
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Post by Humph on Nov 19, 2016 14:03:43 GMT
Ok Just watched it. Clearly the old top gear needed a refresh, and a bucket load of cash was thrown at it to provide it. Wasn't keen on the cult of celebrity up front, the dying celebs was silly, the audience "fight" was sillier, but the rest was superb, doing what they are best at, mucking about with cars. I like the fact that Amazon can allow characters to be much more edgy and earthy with little regard to PC or offending anyone, Good I'll watch the next one Thebbctopgearfranchiseisdead Shitmyspacebarhasjustdied Inclined to agree, really hard to see how the BBC could hope to compete without the current format looking like the poor relation. They'd be better just to kill TG, and if it was felt to be appropriate, create a completely new motoring based programme.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 18:38:08 GMT
I suspect that future episodes are likely to be better; less stupid stunts and more cars and banter which is what we (I) wanted from TG anyway.
Pity Ferrari wouldn't let them drive the car on road.
The BBC will be able to do a more UK oriented programme if TGT is going international. Needs to steer away from celebrity presenters and get good journalists in with screen presence. TGT is entertainment and needs to be viewed as such.
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Post by Rob on Nov 19, 2016 20:44:07 GMT
TG with Clarkson and team was a cash cow for the BBC. They made a lot selling episodes overseas and indeed the format. What they will be left with might be a better programme to me - but it won't generate the same revenue.
Of the presenters on the attempt at resurrecting it with Chris Evans, only Chris Harris was really any good. And he would be good on a factual programme and not an entertainment programme which Top Gear had become.
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Post by manatee on Nov 19, 2016 23:07:43 GMT
I was very much looking forward to a new show. What I saw was anything but new. A bit better than an average edition of BBC TG, probably owing to a bigger budget, but a big yawn in that it was probably as near a complete replication of that programme as could be achieved legally. The same running jokes, hackneyed banter, another gimmicky racing driver, silly contests, affected giggly enthusiasm, identical camera work and endless shots of what might as well be the same smoking tyre.
They really should have taken the opportunity to ditch Wilman who evidently didn't have a new idea in his head. The running time could probably have been halved without losing anything except the waffle and unfunny japes. It would also be improved IMO without Hammond, who is never interesting or amusing.
I probably like cars enough to persist in watching it, as it's free to me at the margin, but I wouldn't pay for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 0:11:58 GMT
The best one is May. He has the ability to take a serious topic and discuss it in a light manner whilst still imparting technical detail. I remember one of his first road reports of the then new Subaru Outback in about 2004. Very good without being boring.
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Post by Rob on Nov 20, 2016 1:46:34 GMT
>> hey really should have taken the opportunity to ditch Wilman who evidently didn't have a new idea in his head.
The old format makes money - unfortunately. So we get Clarkson and Wilman's version of Top Gear on Amazon. Because lets face it the BBC owes a gratitude to both of those. They have made the corporation a lot of money.
I agree James May is the best and they belittle him too often.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 21, 2016 9:55:19 GMT
I wanted to really enjoy it, but didn't in the end. It was beautifully filmed and I liked parts of it. But I'm really, really not interested in hypercars and all that tearing around tracks sideways. I like it when they buy ropey old bangers and have a proper adventure with them. I hope we get more of that in the rest of the series.
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Post by crankcase on Nov 21, 2016 10:22:21 GMT
I pretty much agree that the cocking about in an old Morris they turn into a boat and fall about hysterically while doing it is MUCH more entertaining to me than the latest roary hyper thing going quickly. And the road trips - the Vietnam one was excellent.
I expect we will see more of these things - the clips certainly imply it. I think a trip through Russia whilst trying to make a flying car would be the ideal. They could race the Trans-Siberian express.
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Post by tyrednexited on Nov 21, 2016 11:33:58 GMT
......I like it when they buy ropey old bangers and have a proper adventure with them.... ....art imitating life?.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 14:48:42 GMT
Just watched episode 2. Made me laugh a lot, I enjoyed it.
The US Driver is a bit tiresome, I'd guess he'll disappear at some point. I found the Jordan Special Forces segment a bit too silly overall, though several times I found it hilarious. There was just a couple of tedious bits also. Who knew Alanovic and James May agreed on so much!
Overall, still very much worth the effort and much better than Top Gear. Its fun, no more than that, but it is good fun. One can, and no doubt some will, make all the usual pseudo-intellectual, condescending comments, but I like it (said Florence, hopefully).
Though, as Al and CC said above, I do hope we get some silly projects in coming episodes.
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Post by commerdriver on Nov 25, 2016 15:49:25 GMT
"but I like it (said Florence, hopefully)."
`That's obvious!` ,said everybody, cockily. `Booinngg!`
Giving your age away again Otto
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Post by WDB on Nov 27, 2016 21:27:51 GMT
Just watched episode 2. Made me laugh a lot, I enjoyed it. And I thought it was (mostly) tedious, repetitive rubbish that did nothing with the potential of the South African location; it might have been just about anywhere. And the whole 'special forces' thing felt, well, specially forced. Dreadful. Episode 1 had a bit more local flavour. But this lot are best on a road trip. Surely, with a budget like this, that can't be out of reach.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 27, 2016 22:03:15 GMT
Seriously? it was poor. So poor I gave up halfway through.
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