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Post by Humph on Aug 29, 2024 12:02:35 GMT
Perfectly sensible to take a break if required on a long journey. I just prefer to do that when it suits me rather than when it suits the car.
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 29, 2024 12:58:59 GMT
As it happens my dog, bladder and car were in perfect sync for the two stops. But obviously anyone can stop when they want. For me, I tend to press on, which is not good, so having to stop is better.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 3, 2024 19:13:26 GMT
Today's drive was not long, just to Burnley but I discovered something about the car... silence.
You would think that in the over two years I have had the car I would have experienced that before, but somehow today was different. I know the road well; it is fairly well but not newly surfaced. At the point I felt it, the road is a fast dual carriageway which goes uphill for about a mile. I realised there was almost no noise...
The only difference that might account for this, is that I have been experimenting with the regenerative braking settings. When I first got the car, I used specific levels of regeneration; either 1, 2 or 3. Then I moved onto Auto, again with three settings. I have tried iPedal but not sure I like it.
Then I read that for higher speed roads, the regeneration should be set to zero and that is what I did today. I wonder if that made a difference?
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Post by Humph on Sept 3, 2024 20:43:36 GMT
The words of the prophet are written on the subway walls…😉
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Post by Rob on Sept 3, 2024 21:03:02 GMT
If you set regent to zero then when you lifted off it would coast. But I'm not sure I'd expect an electric motor going in reverse for region to make much noise. Maybe it does. Some cars now claim to be able to reclaim quite a few kW from the regeneration.
Did you get more miles per kW too? Because I'd have thought coasting is better than letting it brake a bit to slow you down.
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Post by WDB on Sept 3, 2024 21:30:34 GMT
The i3’s motor makes a distinct ‘slowing’ sound when it’s regenning — it has no option to coast — so the absence of that would be noticeable if I could switch it off. Esp may be noticing the equivalent absence in the Ioniq 5.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 4, 2024 7:29:52 GMT
There is certainly a zero regen position which I used. I have also tried putting the car into neutral, but not yesterday as there was too much traffic. I don't know if that would have helped the 'coasting' more than in zero.
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Post by WDB on Sept 4, 2024 7:52:57 GMT
Probably not, and not a great idea anyway from a control and safety point of view. As we’ve both noticed, there’s very little retardation in D anyway (I’m thinking of the iX now, rather than the i3) but the motor is only a touch of the pedal away if it’s needed in a hurry.
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Post by dixinormus on Sept 4, 2024 8:02:52 GMT
I did my weekly 300-mile Auckland round robin trip again today. With WdB’s approbation fresh in my mind I managed to reduce the petrol consumption to 6.5l/100km, a saving of 2 litres of juice.
Yes it might be dinosaur motoring but it’s good dinosaur motoring.
Highlight of the day was seeing a bright red, immaculate 1990 BMW 318iS on the motorway. Someone’s pride and joy!
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 4, 2024 8:28:06 GMT
They were nice cars the 318iS. Lighter at the front so far better handling than the 320 or 325s.
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Post by bpg on Sept 4, 2024 10:41:29 GMT
One of those never meet your heroes cars. A lad I carshared with in the 90s had an E46 318iS. It was that car that put me off BMWs. Lacklustre performance, crashing suspension and orange boxes for seats.
Back to EVs, they never really coast. If the motor is not consuming from the battery and driving the wheels then it is a generator driven by the wheels pushing charge back to the motor given the lack of clutch. With regen set to 0 my EV still pushes 2kW to the battery and it gets rid of the handbrake stuck on sensation.
One thing I struggle with is some of the stats presented in the app. Fur example, today the car has covered 25kms with an energy consumption of 2.57kWh. I then get an average consumption of 10.30kWh/100kms which is close enough to the actual consumption figures ((2.57/25)*100) or 2.57*4 gives 10.28 rounded up. It then shows a regen figure of 1.77kWh. What is that number ? Does it mean 3.34kWh has been pulled from the battery then 1.77kWh was not needed ? Does it mean >3.34kWh has been pulled and 1.77kWh is what it managed to recover (I suspect this is closer to the mark as energy is lost not made) ?
This leaves me questioning how much has been pulled from the battery ? 2.57kWh has been used, 1.77kWh has been returned, what was the total amount taken from the battery ?
Does this mean in a perfect world I'd want the regen figure as close to 0 as possible meaning only the energy taken from the battery was used to power the car ? The app suggests 87% of the energy was used driving the car, 9% for electronic devices and 4% for climate control.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 10:55:30 GMT
One of those never meet your heroes cars. A lad I carshared with in the 90s had an E46 318iS. It was that car that put me off BMWs. Lacklustre performance, crashing suspension and orange boxes for seats. Agreed. My Mum had an E30 318iS - I preferred her previous MG Maestro 2.0 EFi in every way.
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Post by Rob on Sept 4, 2024 12:27:58 GMT
Even more recent 3 series were not great inside in my opinion. Can't remember the year precisely (2011 probably) but there was a deal for the 520d SE on the company car scheme and they were fairly cheap. Sat in one and thought it was a nice car with a quality interior. Then sat in a 320d.... I really didn't like it. By the time I came to be ready to order a new car, the 520 deals were gone.
I also thought I should consider a 3 series in 1999 but just sitting in one made me think I did not like it. Might have driven really well and I'm sure it did. But an underpowered one with not so great interior was not for me.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 5, 2024 14:54:01 GMT
Another 160+ miles today to Shrewsbury and back. I have done a few longer trips recently and will do another later in the month; far more than I usually do.
The efficiency today was 3.9 miles per kWh averaging over 50mph with a mix of slower rural roads (A49) and faster ones like the A5. I have changed over to the ECO setting but using only zero regen with occasional flicking up to Levels 1 and 2 for slowing before bends. The car is much better to drive this way and I think more efficient as well.
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Post by WDB on Sept 5, 2024 15:03:40 GMT
Better to drive, certainly, in that you can have three modes — accelerating, coasting, slowing — rather than two, so your right foot isn’t always working. More efficient? Probably not much in it, assuming the brake pedal starts by adding regen and only resorts to friction when that’s not enough. One-pedal would be less efficient only if you routinely shed too much speed, then made it back from the battery. Otherwise, the law of conservation of energy applies.
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