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Jun 13, 2024 9:07:44 GMT
Post by WDB on Jun 13, 2024 9:07:44 GMT
Tesla is getting fighty. I still don’t want one but I can see this persuading some people. View AttachmentAnd after that, this: After which, the offer I actually received, at 1.8%, came as a bit of a disappointment. And I think I’d rather have a Macan at that end of the market. But anyway…
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Jun 13, 2024 11:43:24 GMT
Post by EspadaIII on Jun 13, 2024 11:43:24 GMT
Harry Metclafe gave it a rather poor review. Way too 'thirsty'.
The concept of 'simplify and add lightness' has well gone at Lotus.
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Jun 13, 2024 12:12:33 GMT
Post by WDB on Jun 13, 2024 12:12:33 GMT
It's not clear who it's for - bigger than an iX without the space inside. But then, we all said similar things when the Cayenne appeared and that seems to have done all right.
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Jun 13, 2024 12:22:52 GMT
Post by Alanović on Jun 13, 2024 12:22:52 GMT
It's for people seeking a status symbol.
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Jun 13, 2024 12:40:19 GMT
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Post by WDB on Jun 13, 2024 12:40:19 GMT
Plenty of competition in that sector, most of them easier to recognise.
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Jun 13, 2024 16:38:36 GMT
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Post by bpg on Jun 13, 2024 16:38:36 GMT
The concept of 'simplify and add lightness' has well gone at Lotus. That's what happens when Geely platform shares. Take the badges off a Volvo and stick some Lotus badges on.
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Post by WDB on Jun 13, 2024 17:14:18 GMT
Ah, is it the same as the EX90 and the Polestar 3, then?
To be fair, Chapman’s aphorism was about racing cars, which the Eletre very much is not. I hope we’ll get back to lightness one day.
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Jun 13, 2024 18:00:16 GMT
Post by Rob on Jun 13, 2024 18:00:16 GMT
It will be linked to the other Geely cars like the EX90 for sure. I'm not sure there is a market for a car larger than an iX with less interior space. I am not sure I'd want a heavy EV Lotus. The last proper Lotus impressed Harry Metcalfe enough for him to buy one of them with the manual gearbox. His Emira was a lot cheaper than you can get them for now.
I always liked to look of the Lotus Esprit, especially the later ones. Poorly built in real terms but there was something about them compared to say a Porsche.
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Jun 13, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
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Post by bpg on Jun 13, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
I was being hugely flippant, probably not a tophat but there's got to be some sharing. It won't be unique for Lotus that just doesn't happen in 2024 in automotive groups.
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Jun 13, 2024 18:20:40 GMT
Post by Rob on Jun 13, 2024 18:20:40 GMT
There will be a lot of sharing. I am surprised in another thread there's a comment on quality on the EX30. I'd have thought Volvo would have made sure the quality was right. But not surprised about the buggy software.
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Jun 13, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
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Post by bpg on Jun 13, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
Built in PRC to keep the costs down though I've read they may transfer manufacture* to Belgium before import taxes can be applied.
* Manufacture being assembly of KD kits.
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Jun 16, 2024 5:52:57 GMT
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Post by dixinormus on Jun 16, 2024 5:52:57 GMT
It’s the economy, innit. No money, or money too expensive to borrow. Lots of mundane cars and brands offering special deals and prices in these parts at the moment.
That said, whoever asked for a Lotus SUV? They might be pushing the limits of the brand a tad far?
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Jun 16, 2024 9:09:02 GMT
Post by EspadaIII on Jun 16, 2024 9:09:02 GMT
Didn't they say that about Porsche and Lamborghini - but their best selling models are the SUVs. And Ferrari is halfway there as well.
Trouble is the Eletre is simply not good enough compared to other similarly priced cars (or even cheaper cars). Who would have thought that a former E350 driver and a former Macan driver would meet up at a charging station in Gretna both driving Ioniq 5s?
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Jun 17, 2024 9:47:38 GMT
Post by Alanović on Jun 17, 2024 9:47:38 GMT
Saw an Eletre (black) pulling out of the Shire Horse pub car park near Maidenhead over the weekend.
Meh. SUV blob.
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