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Post by bpg on May 27, 2024 7:05:50 GMT
After this morning’s promise of National Service, I wonder what will be the next ploy to protect the nostalgic pensioner vote from the BNP, or whatever name Farage and Tice prefer these days. Chimney sweeping for the under-12s? Rationing? Rickets? Mmm, not sure what the country needs right now is headbangers, who would not normally be accepted by the military, running around with knives who are trained in how to use them. Imagine what it would be like if they actually knew what they were doing. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 8:16:47 GMT
The current batch of older teenagers "did their bit" during the pandemic, lest we forget, by conforming and giving up some of the best years of their lives to save the lives of those very older people who will now gleefully vote for the grandchildren's generation to "do their bit".
How quickly things get forgotten. Clean for the Queen wasn't it, that nice, sensible Mr Gove was asking us to do? How quickly that becomes Die for the King.
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Post by WDB on May 28, 2024 8:24:48 GMT
But the pensioners will now get a nice tax break to reward them for voting to make other people do what they never did. Remember nobody now aged under 80 did compulsory National Service — and those who did mostly viewed it as a waste of an important time in their own lives. It’s the Mark Francois thing all over again — the generation that missed the privations of WW2 defining themselves as them wot won it.
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Post by bpg on May 28, 2024 9:03:38 GMT
The cynic in me says National Service is an opportunity for the government to put it out to tender among their mates.
Once privatised, it won’t be long before you can buy or rent 18 year olds for your own private needs.
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Post by WDB on May 28, 2024 9:23:38 GMT
So it won’t be just for Prince Andrew any more? Now that’s real Levelling Up!
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Post by bromptonaut on May 29, 2024 7:01:10 GMT
It's interesting how the public and media have focussed on the military bit of this 'National Service' proposal.
It looks as though there would be around 30,000 places in military functions such as logistics, intelligence and IT. They will be by application and with an apparently rigorously competitive selection process. I imagine that those who succeed will be doing very little square bashing and a lot of intensive study in 'hot house' uni type conditions.
The other 720,000 will be painting railings in the park or helping out in care homes....
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 8:07:04 GMT
I don't care how interesting it is, they can roll it up, shove it where the sun doesn't shine and set fire to it. Strikes me as hilarious how often self-styled "Libertarians" are often the first to turn to Authoritarian polices like this.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 31, 2024 10:53:12 GMT
Oh Boy! And we thought our election was interesting (well not really..). But the USA. Thrown wide open with the guilty verdict.
I have no great truck with either candidate (for different reasons) but I wonder if the verdict has swung the election towards Trump? What happens if he wins and he is behind bars? Can he pardon himself? What a shambles that the most powerful country in the world has these two as the only choice as potential leaders.
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Post by WDB on May 31, 2024 11:22:13 GMT
Disgraceful that Republicans in elected positions of responsibility have weighed in to condemn the court and the judiciary. That way lies anarchy.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2024 11:28:42 GMT
We've had similar here from elected Tories.
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Post by WDB on May 31, 2024 11:51:12 GMT
Yes. Braverman after the Bristol criminal damage acquittal, for example. And we know whose example she was following.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 31, 2024 12:01:36 GMT
If the outcome was more finely balanced then I could see some justification in calls that this was 'lawfare' but really sensible politicians, where there is no obvious bias in the process, should stay out of it. The Republicans have not got the wrong end of the stick, but the wrong stick. Madness that to be classed as a good Republican today you need to agree that Biden stole the 2020 election. How can suppposedley sensible Republicans (and there are some) accept that Trump is the answer to the question of who should be their candidate, especially after this verdict?
No candidate is 100% clean (and Lord knows Biden is not) but there is a little tarnished and downright grubby...
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Post by Rob on May 31, 2024 15:29:05 GMT
For the conviction yesterday he cannot pardon himself if he becomes president because it's a state prosecution and not a federal prosecution. Presidents can only pardon federal offences. Some of the other things he's going to court over are federal lawsuits.
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Post by EspadaIII on May 31, 2024 16:39:26 GMT
Just heard his 'statement' - would love to fact check everything he said.
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Post by bpg on May 31, 2024 18:32:06 GMT
It's just a new form of Dim-mockerycy. Suprised Trump didn't make that one up.
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