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Post by WDB on Apr 7, 2024 8:06:54 GMT
The Aygo has been letting in water — and we all know there’s been a lot of water to let in recently. After several weeks of faffing over appointments and Boy1’s availability, we took it to the rural workshop that’s seen it before.
Their assessment, after two further days waiting for the AA’s systems to cooperate, is that water is getting through a failed rubber gasket around the third brake light, then trickling down channels in the rear pillars and collecting in the boot carpet and the tail lamp units. The lamps are — for now at least — all working normally. Their suggested remedy is to replace the seals by replacing all three lamp units for £515.
Keen as the engineer boy is to see the job done properly, he’s not demanding that I simply cough up. Toyota seems not to sell the seals without the lamps. But others do — at £7 for the set of three. Each lamp unit is held in by a single bolt, although it’s awkwardly half-hidden behind what passes in Aygo-world for a trim panel. This presents the possibility of starting a job we find we can’t finish, but any mechanic will have a tool to cope with the awkward angle on the nut. He thinks he has one in Southampton who would do it, which seems a more appropriate solution.
Asking prices for these cars still seem to be above what I paid in 2021, so there’s merit in looking after this one. Boy1 starts his Proper Job in Cambridge in September, and he’s thinking that might be the moment to move up to something a bit slicker. Till then, this car has a busy summer ahead — and a lot more rain to keep out.
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Lago Aygo
Apr 7, 2024 10:46:02 GMT
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Post by Humph on Apr 7, 2024 10:46:02 GMT
“His” old Aygo had the same problem. We were going to fix it but he cured the issue by driving it through a wall before the job was done. The “new” one is dry so far.
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Apr 7, 2024 16:09:11 GMT
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Post by EspadaIII on Apr 7, 2024 16:09:11 GMT
That is a rather extreme solution but good to know it works...
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Post by bromptonaut on Apr 20, 2024 10:02:09 GMT
Son's 107 which of course is pretty much identical to an Aygo had this issue too.
Solved by cleaning around the seals and, IIRC, using either PTFE tape or bathroom sealant to beef them up.
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Apr 20, 2024 16:40:35 GMT
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Post by WDB on Apr 20, 2024 16:40:35 GMT
Thanks Bromp. Making do with tape around the seals at the moment as he’s at the busiest point in his final year and hasn’t the time to haul it around garages. May have to wait till June.
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Post by bpg on Apr 20, 2024 20:03:05 GMT
When you have the time and get it stripped down a bit of Gorilla Glue might fix it for you. Water is the active ingredient for that glue. Clean both surfaces, apply glue to one surface, a quick spritz of water to the other surface and stick together. The glue will actually foam up, some trimming (stanley knife or blade) my be required.
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Post by WDB on Sept 30, 2024 10:42:06 GMT
Tape seems to be keeping the Aygo dry at the moment — quite a result given the September weather.
Anyway, it hit another challenge this weekend — or rather, the challenge hit it. Boy1 reports that a pickup driver reversed out of a space in a motorway services car park as he was passing in the aisle and the towbar (inevitably) made contact with the Aygo’s rear nearside wheelarch and door. Bugger.
Nobody hurt and no dispute over fault, but the pickup driver made the inevitable suggestion of not involving insurers, which Boy1 sensibly refused. The gold-braid insurer duly passed the claim to its management company, but they now want to write the thing off. Double bugger.
The damage doesn’t add much to the car’s various bumper and wheel scuffs but has dented and removed paint from both panels. A lot of work to get it perfect — but probably manageable just to keep it serviceable.
All a bit beyond my experience, although I’ve advised consulting a bodyshop for his own estimate. Where’s Vić when we need him?
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Sept 30, 2024 11:42:07 GMT
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Post by bpg on Sept 30, 2024 11:42:07 GMT
Get a replacement door from a scrapyard, maybe go Polo Harlequin if colour match not possible.
Rear ¾ panel may be trickier. If no sharp edges and the door can still be operated just rustproof it.
Edit: probably worth investigating insurance for a category N car before doing anything. It might not be worth the bother if the insurance is going to be an issue or unreasonably loaded.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 30, 2024 12:13:10 GMT
Ouch.
Is the damage that bad that the car is undriveable? As bpg says, maybe just buy a 'new' door and carry on. Accept a few hundred notes from the pickup driver. Depends upon the age of the car.
Effectively it's how we treated the Punto.
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Post by WDB on Sept 30, 2024 12:28:30 GMT
This is what he sent me. Looks like the ball hit right on the gap between panel and door.
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Sept 30, 2024 12:57:03 GMT
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Post by bpg on Sept 30, 2024 12:57:03 GMT
I wouldn't claim for that on insurance. Had a similar thing to the KIA last year in a supermarket car park. Naturally the other driver didn't leave details and no one saw it.
Cost about 1200€ in a bodyshop to put right. Once you take off any excess you'd pay, might not be very much difference. You could just polish and wax it. If any rust appears spray some rust converter on it.
Depends how your insurer will play it now at renewal. Even if they don't pay out they may still argue you had a knock.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 30, 2024 13:13:13 GMT
I wouldn't claim for that on insurance. Had a similar thing to the KIA last year in a supermarket car park. Naturally the other driver didn't leave details and no one saw it. Cost about 1200€ in a bodyshop to put right. Once you take off any excess you'd pay, might not be very much difference. You could just polish and wax it. If any rust appears spray some rust converter on it. Depends how your insurer will play it now at renewal. Even if they don't pay out they may still argue you had a knock. I agree 100%. It's merely a flesh wound... Spray a bit of WD40 over the exposed metal and do a deal with the pickup driver.
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Sept 30, 2024 13:19:44 GMT
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Post by WDB on Sept 30, 2024 13:19:44 GMT
Different order of magnitude but how is it qualitatively different from my Audi incident with the iX? Other driver entirely at fault, no excess to pay.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 30, 2024 13:56:56 GMT
In your case there was no doubt about the car being written off. It's a brand new car and you want it looking brand new.
In the Aygo's case, the car was going to be written off, which I assume you do not want to happen, the car itself is of some age (I assume) and bearing the scar of a minor accident will have little bearing on value. Take the cash and let your son carry on driving it.
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Post by bpg on Sept 30, 2024 14:09:47 GMT
EspIII has covered the difference, as soon as the bodyshop gets a whiff of 'insurance job' the price shoots up. I certainly would not want Cat N logged on the car for that.
If you really want the car repaired get a quote for a private repair and negotiate with the other driver. You can then get it repaired at your leisure.
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